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  1.    16 Sep 2015 #31

    AveYo said: View Post
    Let's say that people lurking the win..forums are 1% (in fact, not even close). These "1%" tend to be already computer-savvy, and they could stay without any AV protection, it won't make a great difference.

    I too recommended and activated MSE mostly for old people/computer illiterates, just because it could be more familiar. Less "my computer is making squeaking sounds, I'm afraid to turn it back on" reports (kasperky did not have an option to turn off the detection sound for a while).
    At the other end of the spectrum - the gamers, did not spent more than a few weeks with MSE. Why? Because of the horrific schedules and exclusion lists. It was simply overriding user choices, and doing that a lot. Trashing the HDD while playing a game, blocking popular no-cd's or other stuff people used to try out games (probably linked to a more aggressive move against piracy, that was dropped the next year).
    What's left? The corporate level. I've only seen MSE on state-owned companies. If you already pay for MS support, why not. The others were reluctant to use a solution that was proven time and time again it's always too late. Even weeks late. And on top of it, it can break stuff by itself!

    It did not take much time for the waves and waves of malware to target MSE specifically The whole fake-AV business started with this. So you had a nice and shiny icon in the systray, but in reality, it was dead and buried, or even worse, doing bad stuff. In all the 7 era, it was the easiest security solution to bypass. I've spent weeks cleaning up after systems "protected" by MSE.

    What changed in 8 and 10? A lot. More robust. Better exclusion. It gets used for telemetry purposes.
    What did not change in 8 and 10? A lot. Same level of protection: baseline - it all depends on your exposure (where you live, where you work, what you use) and on your luck to not get hit by first waves. Same horrific schedules. Same trashing of resources by the scanners.

    So people, please stop recommending a critical software that you really did not put to use. Others might not be as lucky. Last thing, Malwarebytes is not divine - Ok, maybe their marketing is.

    You have claimed to never use a firewall and having no AV for many years and you also claim you have never had an infection , you are a very rare computer user .

    Fact is, the overwhelming majority of computer users these days are not very knowledgeable with computer stuff , especially all the malware varieties out there which is more sophisticated than ever before.

    They need to have an effective security system in place , every malware removal help forum is so overloaded with people requesting assistance that many have to wait days for a response .

    I think downplaying security is the worst thing you can do these days.
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  2. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 223
    Windows 10 Home
       16 Sep 2015 #32

    I'm a Norton internet security fan.
    In the old days, Norton used to slow a computer down, but now it runs smoothly in the background.
    (In my opinion of course)
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  3. Joined : Aug 2015
    Upstate NY, USA
    Posts : 192
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit
       17 Sep 2015 #33

    dencal said: View Post
    As the future of W10 is based on Edge, and as of this moment Edge does not allow add on,s such as Mbam Anti-Exploit the reported test you quoted is meaningless.
    As for Defender, do read my post "Edge Hijacking" where even with the aforesaid Windows Defender and Mbam plus Mbam anti exploit installed failed to protect my computer.
    Having used the above since Oct last year without any problems, I have now decided they do not offer enough protection, and have installed Avira Free.
    Anti-exploit is not a browser add-on, it is a supplement to your AV and works everywhere. It will work in Edge. You got infected? Well, we all know that no anti-malware setup is 100% effective. Also the statement that the future of Windows 10 depends on Edge is a bit of an exaggeration, wouldn't you think? Even when Edge gets fully developed, people will still be using other browsers on Win 10.
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  4. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,437
    W10 Pro + W10 Preview
       17 Sep 2015 #34

    Dch48 said: View Post
    Anti-exploit is not a browser add-on, it is a supplement to your AV and works everywhere. It will work in Edge. You got infected? Well, we all know that no anti-malware setup is 100% effective. Also the statement that the future of Windows 10 depends on Edge is a bit of an exaggeration, wouldn't you think? Even when Edge gets fully developed, people will still be using other browsers on Win 10.
    You really have to make inquiries before making your above claims, now below where does it state EDGE?
    Where do M$ hope to make money...yes Edge, Cortana and Bing are all inextricably linked publicity wise.
    They as have Chrome hope to generate enormous monetary benefits.
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  5. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 92
    64-bit 10240 10 Pro
       17 Sep 2015 #35

    Avast AIS works for me.
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  6. Joined : Aug 2015
    Upstate NY, USA
    Posts : 192
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit
       17 Sep 2015 #36

    dencal said: View Post
    You really have to make inquiries before making your above claims, now below where does it state EDGE?
    Where do M$ hope to make money...yes Edge, Cortana and Bing are all inextricably linked publicity wise.
    They as have Chrome hope to generate enormous monetary benefits.
    That picture just means to me that they probably haven't updated the text to include Edge. It doesn't solidly mean that it doesn't work there. Just like the myriads of other apps where the list of supported OS's only goes to 8 or 8.1 but they work perfectly in 10.

    It also says "others".

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  7. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 45
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro CORE x64
       19 Sep 2015 #37

    Thanks everybody for sharing your opinions. I kinda forgot about this thread, actually thought would never get any replies. Now, I'll address some questions and I'll admit some mistakes.

    What I tried to say with Windows Defender having some features cut was that, relying heavily on my Windows 7 experience, I couldn't find the proper configuration panel as before, so I thought they removed it in following this trend of making all easy, 1-click style software (As others have taken this road already). I've never used Windows 8 nor 8.1 so I didn't know about this change (I'm assuming that in those OS is the same case). But then, looking at the tutorials to activate Windows Defender on Win10, I decided to look if there was someone like me out there, with the same issue. I watched a Youtube video and then I wanted to shoot me in the head. All this time those options were there, available for me, but because they were in a different place I didn't considered them. I honestly thought those were either removed or hidden (as I found other configurations "hidden"). Then, adding to the problems, I had that thing with Folder View Settings not saving, I just decided to reformat my PC and start from zero.

    I know, I'm a douche. Making a lot of noise for nothing in the end. But well, I freak out when this happens. I'm not used to not be in full control of my PC. Anyways, thank you a lot for posting and sharing, and I apologize for any trouble or discomfort caused.

    Cheers.
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  8. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 21
    windows 10
       20 Sep 2015 #38

    Panda and Malwarebytes (both free)
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  9. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 6
    Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB 32-bit
       21 Sep 2015 #39

    I use 360 Total Security Essential and Smadav

    Smadav 2015 - Smadav Antivirus
    Last edited by maverick09; 24 Sep 2015 at 01:32.
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  10. Joined : Jun 2015
    San Antonio, TX
    Posts : 1,929
    MS Windows 10 Pro - Perm Activation of 10585
       21 Sep 2015 #40

    I use Norton 360 and Malwarebytes free
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