Securing Windows 10 Pro - Main Fam PC


  1. Posts : 7
    8.1
       #1

    Securing Windows 10 Pro - Main Fam PC


    Brief:

    Elderly parents.

    Online Banking, Online tuition of vulnerable children with learning disabilities (volunteering). Zoom meetings. Emails. Online shopping. Bills and accounts management.

    This is the main family PC. Windows 10 pro.

    Adult children live far away (due to work). PC has to be maintained at a distance. There is no one there to fix any problems within 48 hrs (hands on).

    I am doing a fresh Windows 10 pro install.

    ASKING FOR HELP:

    How do I lock this PC down to harden it against ransomware, viruses & malware. I need to secure the machine so it is hard to disrupt.

    Asking for the communities help. I've been out of the IT game for a while, so I am unsure what the minimum steps are, that I should take.

    My sincere thanks to any, willing to contribute.

    KD
    Last edited by KingDing; 18 Feb 2024 at 07:28. Reason: Spellingsness
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  2. Posts : 43,004
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Hi, basic ideas:

    1. Once configured- create a 3rd party disk image and save it to a disk you keep aside so you can readily restore PC to 'as was' (other than data changes)

    2. Set a schedule for creating a restore point e.g. daily (tutorial available).

    3. Ensure any accounts available to users are standard, not admin.

    4. Leave UAC as default

    5. As it's Pro, use group policy to lock things down as appropriate. E.g. block program installs.
    You may find Policy Plus (free) useful - like the group policy editor but it has search.

    Some ideas:
    Top 12 Group Policy Settings for Preventing Security Breaches
    Important Group Policy Settings & Best Practices to Prevent Security Breaches

    You can readily find more - I searched for
    group policy settings to secure PC for older people

    Consider these:
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    Securing Windows 10 Pro - Main Fam PC-1.jpg

    6. Establish a really simple means of specific data backup
    I use a giveaway program - all I need do is plug in the appropriate USB external disk- and the backup runs.
    Wait for that to complete- remove disk.

    The program I use is Genie Timeline.
    Giveaway Genie Timeline Home 10 Serial Key Free Lifetime
    - don't know if this is still valid.

    Should you need to restore the system from the disk image, the data backup (if used!) will help you restore the data.

    (Of course a better approach is to keep personal data off C: but that may not be something you can readily do for some reason..)
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  3. Posts : 1,211
    Windows 10
       #3

    outside of the advice given above which is a good approach

    an ad blocker that is blocking ads, trackers and spam. Set the browsers internal settings to be secure like never remember history and block cookies which the latter is something not easy to setup if you are unsure as it has the potential to break sites.
    Something like ghostery addon is a one time set and forget and will tell websites not to leave cookies.

    Anything in the browsers settings that says block turn it on unless you need those functions

    Ublock or adblockplus

    Host file could be set to resolve to local host on domains that you don't want to allow.

    firewall and AV make sure its on.

    Make sure the router is secure.

    Past that the rest is to advanced to upkeep and this is something you want to tackle as remote support meaning unless you want to spend hours remediating the situation all the time if the user/s are not capable, they will most likely be calling many times with issues as they won't know how to run the computer in more locked down state due to lack of understanding.

    if they are click stuff to go type of users(turnkey) then you are limited in what you can achieve.
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  4. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
       #4

    It is not a PC issue when it comes to malware, it is a end user issue. Suggest moving them to a iPad if you want them secure from trying to infect the OS. Having remote access will just spread malware to your workstation if it is infected, unless you use a isolated VM that is well sandboxed.
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  5. Posts : 43,004
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #5

    Agreed.. it's unlikely they'll go to 'bad' sites, but could be tricked by fake emails, for example.

    Adding lists of blocked sites to the Hosts file, for example, is inadequate.

    ublock origin (browser add-on and ad-blocker) attempts to block sites based on lists, but usually just gets in the way of valid sites.
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  6. Posts : 664
    WIN 10 19045.4291
       #6

    It is very realistic that you were infected long before you realize that you are infected. In more than 90 % of the cases.
    So I don't see any sense to create restore points every day!

    In schools I have seen many computers where the "Guest" account has been activated. This is easy to manage.
    Add a new User and put it in the "Guest Group" makes the system much safer.
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  7. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #7

    Consider Windows 10 S Mode.
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  8. Posts : 43,004
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #8

    Pentagon said:
    It is very realistic that you were infected long before you realize that you are infected. In more than 90 % of the cases.
    So I don't see any sense to create restore points every day!
    If that's a comment on what I said, do you see me referring to infections in relation to restore points?
    No, not at all.

    There may be other things one needs to recover from quickly and conveniently - and possibly over the telephone in this case.
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  9. Posts : 1,211
    Windows 10
       #9

    I don't think Guest account or S mode is a good idea, its not about babying the parents through their own computer that will just lead to headaches and angry parents always calling.

    If they are older generation and are not as literate on the computer then there is cause for things to happen but i think at the same time you need to work gracefully in this situation, its their computer you want to guide them effectively through certain things but not lock them out of functionality to the point that it becomes a "computer issue", "Its not working" etc, because they won't understand past that if this is the case.

    Try to teach them what an ad looks like or a phishing email or a potential bad link if they don't know

    Safe computing starts with effective use of the computer, locking it down in a way where a normal user might not know how to effectively use that computer is a disservice and means more hands on for anyone that is trying to offer support.
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  10. Posts : 315
    Windows 10
       #10

    KingDing said:
    Brief:

    How do I keep my computer safe for Homer Simpson
    Adult Children ? Voting Age ? Teenagers ? What ???

    Well

    1. Make sure your Windows 10 have remote features on. You need to go to programs and apps windows ( where you remove apps and programs etc ), and there should be an option on the left hand corner, that allows you to "Turn Windows Features On".

    Then you need to get something like "Team Viewer" ( not the best option ), or search for apps like Team Viewer, otherwise
    you need to setup the computer so you could log in from a remote location. To service it. You need to be able to log into
    the machine like you would. You also need access to the administrators account. So you should turn that on, and make sure an
    easy password is there.

    2. As of now "Windows Defender" and updated database will do you go for most cheapskates, but a program like "Malewarebytes" in Premium mode ( activation via pay ), will also get you what you want. Not going into this but again I do not like virus busters.

    3. Make sure whatever setup you have have a "System Restore" turned on. on whatever account you have for those Tweens.
    Make sure the system restore is setup to have both system files and apps/programs reset. "System restore" can get you out of a bad Jam.

    4. Browsers make sure "No script" or something like that is installed. I like Basilisk but others might want Brave, Google, or Duckduckgo. These are the most safest/

    5. If you have Windows 10 Pro 21H1 ( unlike me ) it comes with an "Advanced Mode" via the Edge. This mode is an Hyper-V emulated web browser.

    6. Beyond that you could setup the account to have rules. Like what can and can not be installed. Etc. Like Guest mode back with Window XP

    7. Lastly windows 10 comes with a built in fire-wall ( not the official firewall ) but called HOST file. You could read up on it/ Apparently even the Android, OSX, and just about every OS into 9X all have this HOST option. But you have to read up on it, and download a strong list. Microsoft and Google does not want people using the HOST file anymore, so more later windows and apps ignores the list entirely. Again you need to make rules in the Windows Defender if you plan to use this.

    .............

    That should keep you safe until your Nihilistic family member comes along and updates everything bringing DRM to your lives.

    Good luck
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