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  1. Posts : 6,849
    22H2 64 Bit Pro
       #11

    So Jotti has script in page to display google ads.

    Opswat has google analytics.

    Neither of those mean that the file you uploaded was sent to VirusTotal or recorded by Google.
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  2. Posts : 295
    Windows 10 Pro
       #12

    You do realize that Google analytics is used by a massive chunk of the Internet? There are alternative more privacy friendly analytic metric websites that websites can use, but they chose not to for one reason or another.

    This website as well as this site owner's other websites of sevenforums et al all use analytics. In fact, this site owner has a CRAP TON of other forums and an online pharmacy... LOL!

    So there you go. Now, if you're using Android then you shouldn't be complaining about "BS" with VirusTotal and "Google."

    Like I said, I don't like Google as much as the other person, and there are things that can be done to help lessen your relationship with them, but I see now with your post's that you're very ignorant on the subject and the technology. Don't take offense to it or anything, just strive to learn about new things and understand...

    Edit-

    There is a lot of shenanigans on the Internet though. So your mistrust is warranted, but there's a limit.

    I only upload files to VirusTotal that are not my own. So it's not a big deal who sees it at that point. If for example I check a driver at VirusTotal, do you think I'd care if "Google" or whom ever gets a copy? You shouldn't be uploading private stuff to the Internet anyway, cloud or otherwise even if it's encrypted. And god help you if you use their encryption for cloud uploads... I realize the cloud industry is massive right now, but just because it's popular doesn't mean it's all good. I use the cloud, but certain cloud providers and with certain data, and that data is encrypted by me with my own encryption.

    But anyway, yeah, uploading anything to the Internet or even using that site you just posted screenshots to is grabbing your Info. They grabbed your IP, UA, and who knows what browser fingerprint. To really make it a conspiracy, I bet the CIA, NSA et al all have websites that you don't know about for the sole use of public information gathering. I bet they have databases on how people type and whatnot. Just by my use of certain words in my paragraphs can all be used to fingerprint me across the Internet landscape.
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  3. Posts : 79
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #13

    F22 Simpilot said:
    You do realize that Google analytics is used by a massive chunk of the Internet? There are alternative more privacy friendly analytic metric websites that websites can use, but they chose not to for one reason or another.

    This website as well as this site owner's other websites of sevenforums et al all use analytics. In fact, this site owner has a CRAP TON of other forums and an online pharmacy... LOL!

    So there you go. Now, if you're using Android then you shouldn't be complaining about "BS" with VirusTotal and "Google."

    Like I said, I don't like Google as much as the other person, and there are things that can be done to help lessen your relationship with them, but I see now with your post's that you're very ignorant on the subject and the technology. Don't take offense to it or anything, just strive to learn about new things and understand...

    Edit-

    There is a lot of shenanigans on the Internet though. So your mistrust is warranted, but there's a limit.

    I only upload files to VirusTotal that are not my own. So it's not a big deal who sees it at that point. If for example I check a driver at VirusTotal, do you think I'd care if "Google" or whom ever gets a copy? You shouldn't be uploading private stuff to the Internet anyway, cloud or otherwise even if it's encrypted. And god help you if you use their encryption for cloud uploads... I realize the cloud industry is massive right now, but just because it's popular doesn't mean it's all good. I use the cloud, but certain cloud providers and with certain data, and that data is encrypted by me with my own encryption.

    But anyway, yeah, uploading anything to the Internet or even using that site you just posted screenshots to is grabbing your Info. They grabbed your IP, UA, and who knows what browser fingerprint. To really make it a conspiracy, I bet the CIA, NSA et al all have websites that you don't know about for the sole use of public information gathering. I bet they have databases on how people type and whatnot. Just by my use of certain words in my paragraphs can all be used to fingerprint me across the Internet landscape.
    Interesting reply.
    Who doesn't realize that google has infilitrated the internet like no other company must be completly blind that is correct.
    Control is power.
    Google controls google analytics.
    Google analytics at this point is almost like a monopoly, correct me if wrong.
    Logical conclusion, who controls a monopoly has enormous influence over anyone dependent on said monopoly...

    I am aware that tenforums aswell has sevenforums and elevenforums and what else is involved into the typical tracking playground. I don't like that and i try keeping the information that i share with this site limited.
    That being said sometimes you have to compromise, i know barely any other forums on the technical level like this one, so if i want to ask question i come here even when i don't trust this website..

    Personally i have eliminated google from my life.
    The only exception is youtube, but thanks to the suggestions of a forum member i now use yewtu.be (which is still dependent on youtube.com).
    I use lineageos on my phone and barely use it anyways.

    What bothers me with sites like virustotal that are owned by google is that they keep a record of visitors data, ip adress and geolocation, os version, browser version, language, the typical package.
    The files are not my own but google still knows who uploaded what and when, this information seems harmless at first but considering they have this information on ANY visitor you might understand the scale of what happens behind the scenes.

    That last thing you said about websites analysing typing behaviour makes absolute sense and it is terrifying.
    It's not normal.
    Why does it have to be like that?
    What happened to humanity to spy on everyone at all times, why is this necessary?

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    Callender said:
    So Jotti has script in page to display google ads.

    Opswat has google analytics.

    Neither of those mean that the file you uploaded was sent to VirusTotal or recorded by Google.
    What you say might very well be truth, i for one can only speak for myself, i have no insight in google ads and google analytics, i don't know what code really is running there and what information it collects.
    If you are telling me google ads are purely ads without anything else to worry, that might be and it might very well not be.
    Simply put, i hate google. I misstrust google. I avoid google whenever possible.

    Google: The Most Evil Business In The World - Invidious
    YouTube
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  4. Posts : 295
    Windows 10 Pro
       #14

    Hexecutable said:
    Why does it have to be like that?
    What happened to humanity to spy on everyone at all times, why is this necessary?

    It's withen chimps and has been going on for a long, loooong time. Why Queen Elizabeth’s Dress is Covered With Eyes and Ears | by Christopher P Jones | Medium



    How did you get LineageOS on your phone? What phone do you have?
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  5. Posts : 79
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #15

    F22 Simpilot said:
    It's withen chimps and has been going on for a long, loooong time. Why Queen Elizabeth’s Dress is Covered With Eyes and Ears | by Christopher P Jones | Medium



    How did you get LineageOS on your phone? What phone do you have?
    Not sure what the question is, i have a phone that is compatible with lineageos.
    So i deleted the preinstall spyware google android system and replaced it with the latest lineageos android.

    lineageos.org

    Fun fact, the default google android system on my old phone from 2017 is no longer update, there are zero security updates/patches (its android version 8).
    The latest lineageos version is based on android 13, brand new + all security updates and patches.

    Pathetic phone manufacturers want people to be consumers and buy buy buy and throw old working electronic devices to trash like it was normal waste which it is not. pff.
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  6. Posts : 295
    Windows 10 Pro
       #16

    It's a simple question. Once again:

    How did you get LineageOS on your phone? What phone do you have?
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  7. Posts : 79
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #17

    F22 Simpilot said:
    It's a simple question. Once again:

    How did you get LineageOS on your phone? What phone do you have?
    How i got lineageos on my phone, by following the instructions from the official website lineageos.org
    I dont share my specific model here.
    Why does this matter anyways?
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  8. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
       #18

    Hexecutable said:
    Trustworthy and up to date virustotal alternatives?
    Not acquired by google if possible..
    Did not know that Google's parent ABC owned any interest in third party AV/Anti-Malware products.
    Trustworthy would place Microsoft's Defender product line up on top, plus it is free if you do not go for the Endpoint Protection line.
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  9. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
       #19

    flashh4 said:
    I remember you now, one of the few who always has a bite in your reply's ! Good Luck
    There is always one who has been served way too much bitter in their life and Hex is one of those.
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  10. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
       #20

    F22 Simpilot said:
    It's a simple question. Once again:

    How did you get LineageOS on your phone? What phone do you have?
    It is obvious that the OP never read the TOS for LIneageOS:

    "When using our code review platform (Gerrit), you agree that:
    • During account creation, we collect your name, username, and email from a third party. This data is immediately made public.
    • Your name and email address will become embedded and part of the code, which will be publicly available. You understand that the removal of this information would be impermissibly destructive to the project and the interests of all who contribute, utilize, and benefit from it. You waive any right to request erasure, removal, or rectification of this information under any applicable privacy or other law and understand that providing this information is required to contribute to the project.

    We will share the information we have with entities outside of LineageOS if we have a good faith belief that access, use, preservation, or disclosure of the information is necessary to:

    • meet any applicable law, regulation, legal process or enforceable governmental request.
    • enforce applicable Terms of Service, including investigation of potential violations.
    • detect, prevent, or otherwise address fraud, security, or technical issues.
    • protect against harm to the rights, property, or safety of LineageOS, our users, or the public as required or permitted by law."


    As long as the OS requires Android to run on the hardware, the OP will never rid their life of Google.
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