Curious...

I always have relied on third party security programs. Using MS's security is akin to have the Fox guard the hen house.

Funny how some people look at AVs and other security. Most are asking for an AV that is "Lite on resources", "Doesn't bather me all the time" "Doesn't go checking everything" and "Doesn't get in between me and downloads and installations", so how is it going to do it's job than ? It has to intercept downloads, archives and installations or internet pages, otherwise it's doing NOTHING and may not even be there. Most that can be done about it is to hide it's actions but still has to be there between you and malware. Avast, for instance have a "Game mode", with which it doesn't announce updates etc. can be set to default action (mine is "move to Chest") but it's still doing everything I set it to do. Every now and than I do full scan and check size and contents of chest and find few items there but let it's maintenance keep it at certain size. I feel quite comfortable with it setup that way.

One must remember that the bad guys don't stop working just because a new operating system comes out. The bad guys don't have lay offs.
Also keep in mind that most users of computing devices don't go to forums like we do. They have no idea what security on a phone or computer is. I would venture to say that they don't care as long as they can tweak or what ever. Those kind of users are becoming the majority so when it comes to security I think things will get even worse.

You can't teach people things they don't want to learn.
What we got now are people [Damn the torpedoes full speed ahead.]

**Rear Admiral David G Farragut**

Layback Bear said:

One must remember that the bad guys don't stop working just because a new operating system comes out. The bad guys don't have lay offs.

Of course not, every new edition gives them more ammo and incentive to "better" their "work".

adamf said:

Rubbish. I don't know what business you work with but honestly.

Generally I'll be lucky if I get an external telephone line let alone network access. That is secure for sure - leaving the consultant in the corridor without an access card seems a favorite also - if they can't get in....

I must keep missing the sexy birds though.

How can an inanimate object be sexy? I use Avast AIS and it is far from being sexy.

Now that 10 is out, how is security for it ?

Is defender still there ?

COMPUTIAC said:

Now that 10 is out, how is security for it ?

Is defender still there ?

Yes it is and I think it looks different, haven't used it on W8.1 lately though. It's rating has improved as of lately and hope it will be much better with time.