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  1. Joined : Oct 2014
    Trnava
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       28 Aug 2015 #41

    CountMike said: View Post
    People claiming that they newer caught any malware and do not have any AVs or other protection, can't even know that they have some malware and they may find out just when something really bad happens.
    Malware usually does not hide, I do internet banking and credit card payments almost daily without worries.
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  2.    28 Aug 2015 #42

    fredc said: View Post
    Your using a firewall and defender , thats fine , try using no firewall and no AV lol.
    Unless you are connected directly to the internet you don't need a firewall at all really. All Macs are shipped with firewall disabled by default as almost all (home) users connect through a router so really there is no point... Your PC isn't exposed directly.
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  3.    28 Aug 2015 #43

    eLPuSHeR said: View Post
    I am pretty sure most people gets infected nowadays by installing any software and clicking the NEXT button without choosing "custom install" or something like that. If not viruses, at least adware/pups.

    Adware/ pups for sure , it's mind boggling how many programs come with hidden pups etc...

    I have found Eset online scanner with the (pups enabled) box checked to find all of them. Even CCleaner has a bunch , run Eset and see for yourself . CCleaner portable is free of them though but not the exe version.
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  4.    28 Aug 2015 #44

    halasz said: View Post
    Unless you are connected directly to the internet you don't need a firewall at all really. All Macs are shipped with firewall disabled by default as almost all (home) users connect through a router so really there is no point... Your PC isn't exposed directly.
    I'm not talking about not being connected to the internet lol. I don't use a router so can't comment on that but when you think of being on the web your connected to the internet , i thought that was a given.


    Want to see how fast you are infected , try connecting to the net with your firewall disabled , nightmare.
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  5. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       28 Aug 2015 #45

    fredc said: View Post
    Adware/ pups for sure , it's mind boggling how many programs come with hidden pups etc...

    I have found Eset online scanner with the (pups enabled) box checked to find all of them. Even CCleaner has a bunch , run Eset and see for yourself . CCleaner portable is free of them though but not the exe version.
    You need to think about where you get your programs from. That's the issue.
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  6.    28 Aug 2015 #46

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    You need to think about where you get your programs from. That's the issue.

    Actually no, that is not the issue , i only download direct from Piroform and sometimes Bleeping computer , thats it. Emsisoft had a big news article about pups , there is no download site safe from pups now .

    If you have CCleaner do a scan with Eset , you will find 4 pups . If you have portable your clean though. Even Piroform admitted their regular exe program does indeed have pups , only Eset will pick them up though(you must have the (enable pup detection) box checked though .

    Mbam won't pick them up either , Emsisoft and Kaspersky don't .
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  7. Joined : Oct 2014
    Trnava
    Posts : 1,731
    Windows Home x64 (Home per choice)
       28 Aug 2015 #47

    fredc said: View Post
    Emsisoft had a big news article about pups , there is no download site safe from pups now ..
    I have read that article, it is a typical scareware made by AV companies. PUP are as bad as tracking cookies.
    The same thing like saying, do not go on the internet without AV or will get infected within seconds.
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  8. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 1,563
    Windows 10 Pro x64 RS 10586.586
       28 Aug 2015 #48

    After upgrading Win 8.1 with Malewarebytes and no AV, Edge get 10 Seconds later Ransomware BSOD 333.

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    Eset Online clear this for me! Not Malewarebytes, not HitmanPro or many others...! A little Bit hard....
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  9.    28 Aug 2015 #49

    fredc said: View Post
    I'm not talking about not being connected to the internet lol. I don't use a router so can't comment on that but when you think of being on the web your connected to the internet , i thought that was a given.
    Not really. It depends what you have listening. viruses/pups don't have much to do with a firewall. worms/bots do. a firewall will not help you against a virus/trojan/pup

    anyway, i would much rather KNOW what services are listening/running on my computer and run without a software firewall. there are, no doubt, situations that do justify the use of software firewalls, i can't deny that. but for home use, i'm pretty meh on the use of a firewall. if nothing is listening, what's the point?
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  10. Joined : Jul 2015
    Eastbourne East Sussex UK
    Posts : 2,445
    Windows 10 Home x64: 1607 Redstone (1) Build 143934.693
       24 Sep 2015 #50

    fredc said: View Post
    You should seriously consider buying a lottery ticket or going to a casino , never heard of anybody with your kind of luck , the thing that really makes me shake my head in disbelief is no firewall since XP and not a single infection .

    I don't even think that is possible , i logged on to the net for 9 seconds once and my firewall was disabled , i had a page full of Trojans , thats the part thats not believable to me . You sure you weren't dreaming my friend.
    I agree with you just stupid no Firewall and No AV, mine is on 24/7 monitoring my laptop and my Antimalware kicks in once a day to make sure my system is clean that is beside my Antivirus scanning in background as well also CCleaner is monitoring as well, prehalps the poster thinks having it running slows computer down.
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