Windows Defender Update Causes Security Update Error


  1. Posts : 190
    Windows 10, 22H2 10.0.19045
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    Windows Defender Update Causes Security Update Error


    Wondering if it's just me, or if this is just the way this particular update works. It happens every time there's a Windows Defender update (seems to be once a month). The Defender update and the Definitions update seem to start at exactly the same time. The Defender update takes priority so the Definitions update is aborted and waits for the Defender update to be completed, and then successfully updates. I'm ok if this is the way MS has set things up, but it seems that there should be some predefined order to these things so we don't see "aborted" updates. Seeing errors listed drives some of us crazy! Well maybe just us OCD folks. We also "clear" the Event Viewer" (created by MS to specifically annoy OCD suffers) daily!

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  2. Posts : 7,906
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
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    How did you get that report?
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  3. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
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    Steve - It looks like NirSoft Windows update history viewer. Denis
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  4. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
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    Homer,

    Why not just stop looking at this history and why not just stop looking at Event viewer records?

    Denis
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  5. Posts : 190
    Windows 10, 22H2 10.0.19045
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    Try3 said:
    Homer,

    Why not just stop looking at this history and why not just stop looking at Event viewer records?

    Denis
    Number of reasons. Retired (as in bored) Engineer, and fooling around with Windows helps keep the brain cells active. Most times it's fun, sometimes frustrating. But, as I run Sledgehammer to keep the Windows updates at bay for a week or two until the issues surface, looking at this report helps me keep track of the Defender definition updates (the one thing Sledgehammer lets through via tasks in Task Scheduler).
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  6. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
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    Homer,

    1 When you tell WD to update [whether it is through WU or a Task scheduler job], it finds all applicable updates and starts trying to install them. What I think is going on is that WD definition updates contain a command to check if WD is in a fit state to be updated and, if some other process has locked WD [as a platform update must surely do], to stop until WD has been freed up. I imagine that all Windows updates have similar mechanisms so I doubt that there is going to be any resolution to your concern.

    2 If you are ever trying to remedy a fault then Event viewer records might be useful in tracking down the cause. If you know when a fault happened you can look in Event viewer to see events that it recorded at that time. You could then look back at Event viewer past events to eliminate coincidences by finding past events of the same nature that did not result in a fault and so narrow down your shortlist of potential originating causes. If you have cleared Event viewer records then this fault-rectification method will not be available to you.

    Denis
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  7. Posts : 190
    Windows 10, 22H2 10.0.19045
    Thread Starter
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    Denis,

    Thanks for the detailed explanations on the two items. Kind of figured as much. You'd just think that the MS folks could come up with something a bit more elegant or polished. Small item, and I would think they have many more pressing issues than fixing something that works for those of us that tend to be perfectionist.

    There was a sign placed above the door leading to the engineering department at a manufacturing facility where I once worked that read, "There comes a point in the life of every product when it's time to shoot the engineers and start production".
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