How to stop “windows defender antivirus service”?

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  1. Posts : 161
    Windows 10
       #41

    Choosing not to use Windows Security should have ZERO impact on the rest of the operating of Windows. The error messages you receive are, believe or not, sometimes down to Microsoft not doing things properly and mistakes being made in rolling out updates. If you Google the last error code you got it pertains to missing and/or corrupt files in the update process. The files are coming from Microsoft to begin with and so the issue is not you. Your update client (Windows Update) is contacting Microsoft servers and is being instructed to download files but upon downloading them is finding errors. The first error code pertains to what appears to be an issue with .NET Framework.

    Thankfully none of these issues have anything to do with disabling Windows Security. Microsoft began rolling out changes to Windows which made sure people could take more control over the security of their systems, at least in terms of choosing what antivirus protection they wanted, removing the possibility of conflicts between Windows Security and third party solutions etc some time ago. This is because historically Windows Security got in the way a lot of the time. Now you can disable it completely and you shouldn't face any issues as a result of doing this.

    I would recommend you create a .reg file with the opposite values of the ones already set in case you want to revert changes. It's just a case of changing 1 to 0 and 4 to 2 respectively. That way you can instantly revert the changes should you want to and if you do face any issues which might require you to test to see whether these registry entries affect something. Like I said, they probably won't but when you're making pretty critical changes to your system like this you should ALWAYS ensure you have a backup of the original configuration. You can do this by going to regedit, finding the entry(ies) and then exporting them. You should do this BEFORE you make any changes, otherwise you'll just be making copies of the changes you've already made. Another way is, like mentioned above, create your own .reg file which reverts the changes you've made. You could even go so far as to create a script (batch script for example) to automate this process. This is good administration practice above anything else and it ensures if you mess up you have a backup plan, literally. So many people make serious changes to their system and when and if things get complicated and/or messed up they have no idea how to change things back.

    When using the registry ALWAYS back up whatever it is you are changing first. Create copies of the changes. And/or create a solution for reverting back should you need to.
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  2. Posts : 61
    Windows 10 pro 64 bits 1903 build 18362.836
       #42

    supermammalego said:
    Choosing not to use Windows Security should have ZERO impact...
    Hi supermammalego,

    You are absolutely right, I am manually downloading each cumulative update and I noticed that some install and others cancel (see summary annex of the Update log) in this log I separated two updates that finished and three that canceled. See the attachment to see if there are any more problems than what you have already explained.

    I will continue to download manually and install the ones that are not with errors. Then I report which cumulative updates are failing and post them here for everyone to know.

    Note: OK I already made the proper backups of the records before changing them, thanks for the warning!

    thank you
    Clamarc
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  3. Posts : 161
    Windows 10
       #43

    Some will need certain conditions being met in order to install. Have you checked the install notes? Make sure that you read what is being installed and whether it depends on certain conditions ie dependencies on other software.
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  4. Posts : 61
    Windows 10 pro 64 bits 1903 build 18362.836
       #44

    supermammalego said:
    Some will need certain conditions being met in order to install...
    Hi

    At the end of all the description pages of the updates that failed, there is only the following observation:


    How to get this update

    Before installing this update

    Microsoft strongly recommends you install the latest servicing stack update (SSU) for your operating system
    before installing the latest cumulative update (LCU). SSUs improve the reliability of the update process to
    mitigate potential issues while installing the LCU. For more information, see Servicing stack updates.

    If you are using Windows Update, the latest SSU (KB4508433) will be offered to you automatically. To get the
    standalone package for the latest SSU, search for it in the Microsoft Update Catalog.

    My servicing stack update it's the latest version, so I don't think I would have to install anything else in this case.

    Note: I didn't find any fields written dependency on the KB's description pages.

    Clamarc
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  5. Posts : 41,474
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #45

    If you plan to test install a Servicing Stack Update (SSU) make sure that you make a backup image.

    SSU cannot be uninstalled:
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...-stack-updates
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-ask-questions

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  6. Posts : 61
    Windows 10 pro 64 bits 1903 build 18362.836
       #46

    zbook said:
    If you plan to test install a Servicing Stack Update (SSU)...
    hi zbok,

    I did not understand your answer?! ... what is happening to me is that some cumulative updates install and others give error. My SSU is already the latest version for my system, so it wouldn't be the cause of the errors in the cumulative updates I'm trying to make on my system.

    I don't know if my answer was correct ... but if you notice previously there is a post with an attachment, which shows the two cumulative updates that installed successfully and three that failed the installation.

    Note: supermammalego told me that the update´s error codes
    are more related to the update itself than to my system. But he told me to watch as well, if the updates have any dependencies. As the only information I saw in the update description was about the SSU, so I made the observation that my system already has the updated SSU.

    I did an installation test with the same update, KB4560960 in two ways:
    1 - Installing automatically by windows update on my computer ... the error was 0x800f081f
    2 - downloading this same update, KB4560960, from the windows catalog ... the error was another 0x8024200d.

    So there are two situations:
    - Why can I update some and not others?
    - Why does the same update show different error codes, depending on the way I install them - Windows update and windows catalog?

    Note2: NET.Framework on my system is version 4. Could this be the cause of the errors in the updates or not?

    thank you
    Clamarc

    thank you
    Clamarc
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  7. Posts : 41,474
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #47

    In post #44 there were comments on SSU so the information in post #45 was displayed.

    For failed Windows updates a troubleshooting step may include performing an in place upgrade repair with the same Windows version:

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  8. Posts : 61
    Windows 10 pro 64 bits 1903 build 18362.836
       #48

    zbook said:
    In post #44 there were comments on SSU so the information...
    hi zbok,

    I did a test and uninstalled a normal update and then downloaded this same update in the windows catalog and installed it standalone. The update was installed without any problems.

    It turns out that the problem is happening with the cumulative installation, starting from build 18362.207.

    I was able to install the cumulative updates for builds 18362.145 and 18362.175. But from Build 18362.207 onwards, the error code 0x8024200d appears when I try to install in standalone mode.

    The most recent build, 18362.900, which appears in my windows update for automatic download and installation, when it begins to be installed, shows error code 0x800f081f.

    Summing up:
    - The problem only occurs with cumulative updates, so my system's windows update is not corrupted, correct?
    - when any cumulative update is performed automatically, in windows update mode, error code 0x800f081f appears.
    - when the cumulative update is performed in standalone mode, error code 0x8024200d appears.

    If my computer's update system was corrupted, it was not for him to make any updates, correct? ... but the errors only appear in the cumulative updates from build 18362.207, because the previous builds were installed without errors!

    thank you
    Clamarc
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  9. Posts : 41,474
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #49

    Please perform the following steps:

    1) Open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste:
    2) sfc /scannow
    3) dism /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth
    4) dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth
    5) dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
    6) sfc /scannow
    7) chkdsk /scan
    8) findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\Logs\CBS\CBS.log >"%userprofile%\Desktop\sfcdetails.txt"

    9) When these have completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into the thread

    10) Find the new text file on the desktop > post a share link into this thread

    11) Search for each and post share links into this thread:
    C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log
    C:\Windows\Logs\Dism\Dism.log

    12) For share links please use one drive, drop box, or google drive
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  10. Posts : 61
    Windows 10 pro 64 bits 1903 build 18362.836
       #50

    zbook said:
    Please perform the following steps:...
    hi zbok,

    follows requested reports

    Log's CBS and DISM

    Note: Sorry, I closed the prompt screen and lost the sfc messages (no error was found), but the chkdsk message I managed to recover in the event viewer:


    Checking the C file system:
    The file system type is NTFS.

    Stage 1: examining the basic structure of the file system ...
    224000 of processed file records.
    File verification completed.
    3948 records of large files processed.
    0 invalid file records processed.
    Stage 2: examining the file name binding ...
    241 new analysis records processed.
    293284 of index entries processed.
    Index check completed.
    0 unindexed files scanned.
    0 non-indexed files recovered in lost and found.
    241 new analysis records processed.
    Stage 3: examining security descriptors ...
    Verification of security descriptors completed.
    34643 processed data files.
    CHKDSK is checking the USN diary ...
    41043288 of USN bytes processed.
    USN journal check completed.

    There are no problems with the file system.
    No action needed.

    99016778 KB of total disk space.
    39706148 KB in 107458 files.
    85300 KB on 34644 indexes.
    0 KB in bad sectors.
    335426 KB in use by the system.
    65536 KB occupied by the log file.
    58889904 KB available on disk.

    4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
    Total 24754194 allocation units on the disk.
    14722476 allocation units available on disk.

    Obs2: In the event viewer, I observed an error log informing about the cumulative update that I was trying to install, if it helps, the message is as follows:

    Eventviewer ERROR

    Fail bucket 1619502894244019821, tipo 5
    Event Name: CbsPackageServicingFailure2
    Answer: Not available
    ID do CAB: 0

    Problem signature:
    P1: 10.0.18362.892 --------> what is this, is it build number? ... because my current build is 18362.175
    P2: Package_for_RollupFix
    P3: 18362.207.1.9 ------------> cumulative build that I TRIED to install is 18362.207.
    P4: amd64
    P5: unknown
    P6: 800f081f
    P7: Resolve
    P8: Absent
    P9: Installed
    P10: WindowsUpdateAgent

    thank you
    Clamarc
    Last edited by Clamarc; 15 Jun 2020 at 16:35. Reason: correct information
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