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  1. Porthos's Avatar
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       #21

    f14tomcat said:
    With both running, MBAM should be set to not register with Security. That allows Defender to still do periodic background scans.

    In addition, not mandatory, but recommended to add each product to the other's exclusion list. Not hard to do. That reduces/eliminates any cross-checking. I have both running, MBAM not registered, and all the exclusions in place.

    From MBAM forum: https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topi...efender-users/
    Humm. Wonder who posted that on the MB forums.

    With both running, MBAM should be set to not register with Security. That allows Defender to still do periodic background scans.
    Actually that allows both to run fully not just peridiacly.
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  2. jumanji's Avatar
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       #22

    also believe that registering Malwarebytes Premium with Windows Security Center allows the two to recognise each others domain , allows them to operate independently and as such there is no need for setting exclusions for one another.

    There is no conclusive proof registering prevents Windows Defender from operating. In my present PC both seem to be running ( with Malwarebytes Premium registered with Windows.Security)
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  3. Porthos's Avatar
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       #23

    jumanji said:
    also believe that registering Malwarebytes Premium with Windows Security Center allows the two to recognise each others domain , allows them to operate independently and as such there is no need for setting exclusions for one another.

    There is no conclusive proof registering prevents Windows Defender from operating. In my present PC both seem to be running ( with Malwarebytes Premium registered with Windows.Security)
    Might want to look at this thread and pay close attention to the screenshots I posted.
    https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topi...omment=1360126
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  4. f14tomcat's Avatar
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       #24

    Porthos said:
    Humm. Wonder who posted that on the MB forums.


    Actually that allows both to run fully not just peridiacly.
    Didn't intend to not give you credit. You're well known, and I figured since even the avatar is the same, it would be obvious. No slight intended. Sorry.
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  5. Porthos's Avatar
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       #25

    f14tomcat said:
    Didn't intend to not give you credit. You're well known, and I figured since even the avatar is the same, it would be obvious. No slight intended. Sorry.
    .
    No, I did not take it that way.
    Many on other forums other Malwarebytes(and a few there as well) like to debate(nice way of saying argue) what I say about the program and do not believe I know anything about how the program operates.
    I have used and sold Malwarebytes from the beginning. There are a few of us who do not work for the company that hold the "title" of Trusted Advisors on the MB forums.
    I do not usually post much over here compared to what I do over there and on one other computer technician only forum.
    Since I support Windows 10 and Malwarebytes for a living, I figure I should spend some time here on the best Windows 10 forum around.

    There are also a few very vocal members here who obviously have an issue with Malwarebytes in general so I generally avoid those topics.
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  6. jumanji's Avatar
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       #26

    Porthos said:
    Might want to look at this thread and pay close attention to the screenshots I posted.
    https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topi...omment=1360126
    Thank you for redirecting me to the Malwarebytes Forum.

    1.Malwarebytes Premium version - Lifetime Subscription:

    Malwarebytes as main Antivirus-15-02-2020-22-55-11.jpg

    2. Malwarebytes set to always register in the Windows Security Center and also to launch in the background when Windows starts up

    Malwarebytes as main Antivirus-15-02-2020-23-00-08.jpg

    3. No evidence that it has shutdown Windows Defender. Windows Defender still remains the King. No intimation window that it will shut down and run periodic scan only if asked to do so.

    Malwarebytes as main Antivirus-15-02-2020-22-58-16.jpg

    4. Settings > Security Provider page still says that Windows Defender antivirus is turned on. No evidence that it has passed the mantle on to Malwarebytes.

    Malwarebytes as main Antivirus-15-02-2020-23-04-11.jpg

    5. System Tray icons: Malwarebytes running in the background. Windows Security Icon green tick mark indicating no conflicts.

    Malwarebytes as main Antivirus-15-02-2020-23-08-31.jpg

    6. My Windows Version:

    Malwarebytes as main Antivirus-15-02-2020-23-16-18.jpg

    Observation: Malwarebytes hasn't shut down Windows Defender.Both Windows Defender and Malwarebytes are running concurrently/side by side with Windows Defender Antivirus being the Primary.

    ( Is it a bug as mentioned by boombastik in his post #17 ? "This is a bug that after a restart malware bytes dont always register in windows security and as a result it does not disable Defender" )

    Whatever both are running concurrently/side by side and I am happy .


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  7. Porthos's Avatar
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       #27

    @jumanji If it works for you then great. It varies on installation path.

    With any new install Malwarebytes 4.0’s new default behavior is to register in Windows Defender Security Center (also known as Windows Security Center, Windows Action Center) as a primary line of defense. Due to Microsoft’s implementation of Windows Defender Security Center, this means that Windows Defender will disable itself as a result (depending on your operating system). Though we do not prevent you from running traditional anti-virus with Malwarebytes, we recommend that you keep Malwarebytes registered as your primary security to get the most comprehensive protection against threats.

    If you are upgrading from Malwarebytes 3.x, then the behavior is a little different. Your current Windows Security Center registration information for Malwarebytes 3.x will carry over. For example, if you have Malwarebytes 3.x registered in Windows Security Center, then that is what you will see with 4.0. If instead, Malwarebytes 3.x is not registered in Windows Security Center, then it will not register on upgrade to Malwarebytes 4.x and will instead remain in compatibility mode unless you change this in Malwarebytes 4.0’s Settings.
    https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topi...omment=1346719
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  8. jumanji's Avatar
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       #28

    Porthos said:
    @jumanji If it works for you then great. It varies on installation path.


    https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topi...omment=1346719
    Since you mentioned installation path:

    Malwarebytes was purchased in 2013 - it was Malwarebytes Anti-Malware PRO then - and was running in my old Win7 PC which died in Dec 2019. In Malwarebytes "My Account", I deactivated it, downloaded it afresh and reinstalled on my new Dell PC on 18 Jan 2020. It was a web installer.

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  9. jumanji's Avatar
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       #29

    Hi @Porthos,

    I now found out why Malwarebytes is not registering as the AV in Security Center.

    McAfee Livesafe came installed in my Dell Inspiron 22-3280. I had uninstalled it. I even ran the McAfee's Consumer Product Removal Tool which said it has been completely removed.

    I tried to find out whether there are any registry keys still linked to McAfee. Found out that it is still registered as the Av Provider. Unless I delete the key Malwarebytes may not register as the Av provider.

    Now Windows Defender and Malwarebytes are running independently which I prefer. I am therefore in a dilemma whether I should delete the key that says McAfee is the registered AV or keep it as it is allowing WD and MB run independantly.

    That key however cannot be deleted even as an Administrator.
    Malwarebytes as main Antivirus-08-03-2020-12-04-10.jpg




    Last edited by jumanji; 08 Mar 2020 at 01:29.
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  10. swarfega's Avatar
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       #30

    I use MBM as my main AV on my PC i use for work and home, it's been effective for me.
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