Is Windows Defender Good for a Gamer to use


  1. Posts : 1,445
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
       #1

    Is Windows Defender Good for a Gamer to use


    Is Windows Defender Good for a Gamer to use, main activity gaming, listening to music, watching sometimes shows or movies, found a program called ConfigureDefenderx64, that hopefully is good to use, though it does say 25 hours to run a full scan

    But maybe cause i have too much open at the moment, CPU temp went up to 87C though, so i got scared, and cancelled it.

    For last 15 or so years just used Avast Free, finally trying to use Defender across every PC in household, 2 Windows 10 pro systems, and 1 Home

    I usually run 1 full scan a week, like i used to do with Avast
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  2. Posts : 985
    Windows 10 Home 21H1
       #2

    I use Windows Defender and IMHO it is perfectly fine for Home use whether you are a gamer or not. You have been an Avast user whereas I used to only ever use McAfee Antivirus or occasionally I had Norton. Because Id read good reports about Windows Defender I decided to give it a go about 6 months ago...absolutely no regrets. I also use Malwarebytes Free once a week and run a manual scan with it. Malwarebytes is good at detecting PUP's also. Malwarebytes hasn't found one thing that Windows Defender has missed yet. But its just an extra precaution I prefer to take
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  3. Posts : 1,445
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Yeah i still prefer Malwarebytes Free as a bit of extra protection, Overall not minding it too much, still getting used to how Defender works, and such, haven't been with Defender that long as other users yet, but eventually i'll have same amount of experience i imagine.

    Think will be fine, as nothing ever found by Malwarebyes, been running Defender for about a month now, longest ever that I left it running, and not switched back to Avast Free, so guess doing good so far
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  4. Posts : 11,203
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #4

    Hi folks

    WD (now to be called Windows protector) and to be given "Industrial and Enterprise" strength with full Ms resource being thrown at it there's no need on Home computers to use Malwarebytes or anything else these days. Those programs were good a few years ago but with the latest developments in Windows plus Ms's activity in cloud services e.g Azure etc having a robust security system is paramount -- given also the nature of Windows frequent updates it would be impossible for smaller 3rd party suppliers to keep their products up to date at the same rate.

    Also the whole nature of computer infection has changed -- the name of the game these days is scamming by all sorts of usually very low or zero tech means rather than old fashioned malware / virus infections. Not that these still don't appear but you only have to look at the papers / news every day to see how many supposedly intelligent people are robbed of quite large sums of money by really simple ruses -- If people spent a fraction of the time on preparing themselves against these incidents than the almost zero likelyhood of getting a computer infected -- especially when using it properly and safely -- these scammers, bottom feeders and lowlifes could all be rotting away in "nice comfortable jail cells".

    Add these extra products if you wish but IMO these days they don't really add anything better than WD together with its latest real time defending does now.

    As to the OP --there's no reason why Gaming should carry any more risk than using any other Internet site - provided game was obtained legally rather than from some torrent site with keygen or other "activation bypass" stunt.

    I'm sure also the OP's fellow gamers would also not be pleased if they had a hacker in their midst infecting / attempting to infect machines so conversely I'd expect proper gamers actually to be better protected than an individual just surfing the net. !!!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. Posts : 985
    Windows 10 Home 21H1
       #5

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi folks

    WD (now to be called Windows protector) and to be given "Industrial and Enterprise" strength with full Ms resource being thrown at it there's no need on Home computers to use Malwarebytes or anything else these days. Those programs were good a few years ago but with the latest developments in Windows plus Ms's activity in cloud services e.g Azure etc having a robust security system is paramount -- given also the nature of Windows frequent updates it would be impossible for smaller 3rd party suppliers to keep their products up to date at the same rate.

    Also the whole nature of computer infection has changed -- the name of the game these days is scamming by all sorts of usually very low or zero tech means rather than old fashioned malware / virus infections. Not that these still don't appear but you only have to look at the papers / news every day to see how many supposedly intelligent people are robbed of quite large sums of money by really simple ruses -- If people spent a fraction of the time on preparing themselves against these incidents than the almost zero likelyhood of getting a computer infected -- especially when using it properly and safely -- these scammers, bottom feeders and lowlifes could all be rotting away in "nice comfortable jail cells".

    Add these extra products if you wish but IMO these days they don't really add anything better than WD together with its latest real time defending does now.

    As to the OP --there's no reason why Gaming should carry any more risk than using any other Internet site - provided game was obtained legally rather than from some torrent site with keygen or other "activation bypass" stunt.

    I'm sure also the OP's fellow gamers would also not be pleased if they had a hacker in their midst infecting / attempting to infect machines so conversely I'd expect proper gamers actually to be better protected than an individual just surfing the net. !!!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Hi Jimbo, Its funny you should say Malwarebytes isn't necessary nowadays. Ive recently clean installed Windows 10 and Istill haven't installed Malwarebytes Free as yet. Im considering whether I really need it or not because I agree totally with your opinions on how good Windows Defender is. Im not sure if I'll be just being over cautious by continuing to use Malwarebytes Free. I have used Malwarebytes Free for many years as a backup to whatever Ive used as my main Security. Whether it was McAfee, Norton or Windows Defender which Ive used happily for 6 months or more now. The reason for my indecision at the moment is that there are so many people on here who still say you should always have more than one Anti-Virus programme. Their reasoning behind that being that you should never just trust one single AntiMalware product alone because it cant possibly catch every piece of Malware. So I can also understand the reasoning behind that opinion too
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  6. Posts : 11,203
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #6

    sportsfan148 said:
    Hi Jimbo, Its funny you should say Malwarebytes isn't necessary nowadays. Ive recently clean installed Windows 10 and Istill haven't installed Malwarebytes Free as yet. Im considering whether I really need it or not because I agree totally with your opinions on how good Windows Defender is. Im not sure if I'll be just being over cautious by continuing to use Malwarebytes Free. I have used Malwarebytes Free for many years as a backup to whatever Ive used as my main Security. Whether it was McAfee, Norton or Windows Defender which Ive used happily for 6 months or more now. The reason for my indecision at the moment is that there are so many people on here who still say you should always have more than one Anti-Virus programme. Their reasoning behind that being that you should never just trust one single AntiMalware product alone because it cant possibly catch every piece of Malware. So I can also understand the reasoning behind that opinion too

    Hi there

    "Risk to Reward ratio" -- but a lot of people are still thinking in the mindset of around 15 years ago when hacking / malware etc was rampant and the Windows OS itself was a joke with regard to security and the old WD was really worse than useless.

    If you add 3rd party AV products to Windows as well as the (these days excellent) WD then you run the risk of hassle when the software fails on the next Windows build / update - even to the extent that Windows itself might not update properly.

    I'd say move on with the times -- protect yourself against the scams -- a particularly nasty one doing the rounds particularly in the UK is the "Money Mule" one. People are offered money for services seemingly innocent. The money together with an overpayment is paid into the recipients bank account -- usually a clean Bank account that's not "of interest" to authorities / has no Court claims against it etc etc. The money is then transferred from the unsuspecting users account to the real "money laundering" target account -- as it's being transferred from a clean Bank account -- there's no problem at the transfer time. BUT - the unsuspecting victim is still committing "Money Laundering" and in most jurisdictions that merits serious jail time plus a load of other nasty sanctions. Now to all people saying we should concentrate on malware etc -- pray tell me how any amount of AV scanning etc will protect you aginst this type of thing.

    Professional hackers target these days infrastructure, corporations, cloud servers --to get users data e.g passwords, credit card numbers etc. and use things like DDos to ransom big companies.

    I was in Shanghai recently enjoying a nice cold chinese beer in an authentic chinese "drinking establishment" and after about 5 mins some nice respectable looking guy offered me for a few Yuan (about 10 USD) a list containing 5,000 credit card numbers with pin codes -- so beware !!!!! never give out too much info on social media sites etc etc.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. Posts : 985
    Windows 10 Home 21H1
       #7

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there

    "Risk to Reward ratio" -- but a lot of people are still thinking in the mindset of around 15 years ago when hacking / malware etc was rampant and the Windows OS itself was a joke with regard to security and the old WD was really worse than useless.

    If you add 3rd party AV products to Windows as well as the (these days excellent) WD then you run the risk of hassle when the software fails on the next Windows build / update - even to the extent that Windows itself might not update properly.

    I'd say move on with the times -- protect yourself against the scams -- a particularly nasty one doing the rounds particularly in the UK is the "Money Mule" one. People are offered money for services seemingly innocent. The money together with an overpayment is paid into the recipients bank account -- usually a clean Bank account that's not "of interest" to authorities / has no Court claims against it etc etc. The money is then transferred from the unsuspecting users account to the real "money laundering" target account -- as it's being transferred from a clean Bank account -- there's no problem at the transfer time. BUT - the unsuspecting victim is still committing "Money Laundering" and in most jurisdictions that merits serious jail time plus a load of other nasty sanctions. Now to all people saying we should concentrate on malware etc -- pray tell me how any amount of AV scanning etc will protect you aginst this type of thing.

    Professional hackers target these days infrastructure, corporations, cloud servers --to get users data e.g passwords, credit card numbers etc. and use things like DDos to ransom big companies.

    I was in Shanghai recently enjoying a nice cold chinese beer in an authentic chinese "drinking establishment" and after about 5 mins some nice respectable looking guy offered me for a few Yuan (about 10 USD) a list containing 5,000 credit card numbers with pin codes -- so beware !!!!! never give out too much info on social media sites etc etc.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    You cant be too careful nowadays Jimbo. Like you say there are all sorts of scams and they are always changing. Its not just computers... telephone scams as well. Theres been loads of security breaches in the last few years at various companies worldwide
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  8. Posts : 2,763
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #8

    Imho Windows Defender is pretty good but some customization options would really come in handy. It's interface it's also somewhat lacking/awkward in my opinion.
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