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  1. Posts : 430
    Windows 10 Pro
       #61

    I delete mine to by turning OFF Windows Restore briefly it gets rid of GB of Module Installer restore points. Then I enable System Restore and create a new manual restore point. Reducing the allowed space for System Restore will also help. I too would be using Macrium to restore from an Oh! oh! I believe MS will get rid of Restore in the next major OS update, they want users to use "Reset This PC" in advanced settings.
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  2. Posts : 347
    Windows 10 Home Version 21H1 OS Build 19045.2130
       #62

    Stitch194 said:
    Reducing the allowed space for System Restore will also help.
    Yes, but your manual restore point would just be deleted when you run of of space, eventually.
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  3. Posts : 1,471
    Win10 Home x64 - 1809
       #63

    I decided to turn off System Restore Points and changed my MR backup strategy. I was doing just a MR > C Drive (All Partitions) Full Image backup after CU's, but have now added just a C Partition backup with weekly/when needed differentials. I really should have been doing this all along :)

    Yea, we keep hearing that they are going to do away with System Restore Points, which makes creating these WD/WMI daily restore points even more puzzling ... lol


    FWIW ... I just posted a question about this on Microsoft Answers, just to see what/if anything they have to say about it.
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...=1534637645443
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  4. Posts : 430
    Windows 10 Pro
       #64

    I delete mine too by turning OFF Windows Restore briefly it gets rid of GB of "Module Installer" restore points. Then I enable System Restore and create a new manual restore point. Reducing the allowed space for System Restore will also help. I too would be using Macrium to restore from an Oh! oh!
    I believe MS will get rid of Restore in the next major OS update, they want users to use "Reset This PC" in advanced settings.
    The Redmond group have become Post Turtles.
    [Definition Post Turtle] Have you ever driven down a country road and seen an helpless Turtle sitting on top of a fence post?
    They don't know how they got there, they don't know what to do whilst they're up there and they don't know how to get down, that's what MS has become. Windows 10 has become a scammers paradise. I hear of people every week loosing $$$ Thousands from scammers that they let take over their PC remotely, the scammer heads to their banking info and cleans out their Bank account.
    You will get better help on this Forum than any MS help team member. Now you've got me going. Enough said!
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  5. Posts : 1,471
    Win10 Home x64 - 1809
       #65

    Didn't mean to get ya going @Stitch194 ... I agree with your Post Turtle analogy of MS and I'm not expecting any help or even an answer from the MS Community :)

    A bit of topic ... after deleting System Restore Points you guys ever check your Device Manage (View Hidden) > Storage Volumes Shadow Copies and notice all the ghosted entries left ?
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  6. Posts : 347
    Windows 10 Home Version 21H1 OS Build 19045.2130
       #66

    Eagle51 said:
    A bit of topic ... after deleting System Restore Points you guys ever check your Device Manage (View Hidden) > Storage Volumes Shadow Copies and notice all the ghosted entries left ?
    Just had a look - what do they mean?
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  7. Posts : 36
    Window 10 Homex64- 22H2(OS Build 19045.3996)
       #67

    Here is a fairly simple explanation. Full info here.

    Shadow copies are a concept which was first introduced in Windows Server 2003. It works by Windows periodically crawling the system and looking for file changes made since the last crawl and recording the changes. These changes are indexed and stacked on top of each other which creates a history of the file/folder. This process was then added to the Windows Vista OS under the System Restore function which is where it remains today. The technology is the foundation of the Windows previous versions functionality.
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  8. Posts : 1,471
    Win10 Home x64 - 1809
       #68

    Just had a look - what do they mean?
    The light grey (ghosted) ones are just left overs from deleting Restore Points and they don't mean anything anymore, as they don't point to a valid Restore Point. You can right click on each ghosted entry and uninstall it, won't hurt anything.

    Note: Just one those MS things, that always seemed incomplete to me.
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  9. Posts : 430
    Windows 10 Pro
       #69

    I have 18 ghosted volume shadows. I believe they are from connecting-disconnecting USB devices and snapshots of disk images. If you right click > Properties > Events it will give you a description of each entry.

    1. Device STORAGE\VolumeSnapshot\HarddiskVolumeSnapshot1 was configured.

    Driver Name: volsnap.inf
    Class Guid: {533C5B84-EC70-11D2-9505-00C04F79DEAF}

    2. Currently, this hardware device is not connected to the computer. (Code 45)

    To fix this problem, reconnect this hardware device to the computer.

    I would hesitate to attempt deleting they are hidden for a reason. If your brave enough to attempt deleting(they'll most likely reappear) Backup, Backup backup.
    Create an image.
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  10. Posts : 1,471
    Win10 Home x64 - 1809
       #70

    I have 18 ghosted volume shadows. I believe they are from connecting-disconnecting USB devices and snapshots of disk images. If you right click > Properties > Events it will give you a description of each entry.
    Storage Volume Shadow Copies are only created when a Restore Point is created, either by you, the system and even MR when you do Disk Images ... After turning off System Restore today, I ran MR to create just a C Partition Image and it created a ghost entry in Storage Volume Shadow Copies.
    1. Device STORAGE\VolumeSnapshot\HarddiskVolumeSnapshot1 was configured.

    Driver Name: volsnap.inf
    Class Guid: {533C5B84-EC70-11D2-9505-00C04F79DEAF}

    2. Currently, this hardware device is not connected to the computer. (Code 45)

    To fix this problem, reconnect this hardware device to the computer.
    1. Yep, they are sequentially numbered. When a Restore Point is created, VSS is loading a driver (volsnap.inf) and it adds an entry to the Storage Volume Shadow Copies ... that point to a specific Restore Point (i.e. HarddiskVolumeSnapshot1,HarddiskVolumeSnapshot2, etc)
    2. It's no longer connected, as it doesn't exist anymore because the given Restore Point that it points to was deleted. It can't come back or be reconnected either.

    I would hesitate to attempt deleting they are hidden for a reason. If your brave enough to attempt deleting(they'll most likely reappear) Backup, Backup backup.
    Create an image.
    Backups are always a good idea and if you do uninstall an entry in the Storage Volume Shadow Copies ... make sure it's actually light grey (ghosted) :)

    I've always uninstalled all ghosted entries in the Storage Volume Shadow Copies. Never seen one come back and never had any issue. Now, with that being said ... leaving them there won't hurt a thing and to each his own :)
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