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  1. Posts : 16,949
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       #11

    Thanks, I've noted the link for reference. WD still reports the hta as a trojan [it now calls it kovter.g].
    Windows defender false positive - forced to allow threat-new-wd-warning.png



    I completed development of my PSCustomMsgBox and would not consider going back to the hta version anyway.

    Windows defender false positive - forced to allow threat-pscustommsgbox-sample.png

    I can call this from my batch file scripts and from VBA. The caller customises it with the required title, text, number of buttons, button labels, colour scheme, audio announcement & time onscreen.

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  2. Posts : 87
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       #12

    No problem . . . I'm currently using Win Defender for a few days to see that it's ok, before I re-install Avast.

    Avast and Malwarebytes never find anything.

    So, I ran a Full Scan of WD an hour ago, and it finds this (below) . . . another false positive? Maybe, if it keeps coming back.

    Either WD is really good, or it gets a lot of false positives.

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    Windows Defender Antivirus has detected malware or other potentially unwanted software.
    For more information please see the following:
    https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?lin...6&enterprise=0
    Name: Trojan:Win32/Fuery.C!cl
    ID: 2147718736
    Severity: Severe
    Category: Trojan
    Path: file:_C:\Users\USER\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\u689l7dh.default\cache2\entries\CF34D68FF 654A22F84CB4F11444B58007DCE4332
    Detection Origin: Local machine
    Detection Type: FastPath
    Detection Source: User
    User: COM1-16GB\USER
    Process Name: Unknown
    Security intelligence Version: AV: 1.301.1075.0, AS: 1.301.1075.0, NIS: 1.301.1075.0
    Engine Version: AM: 1.1.16300.1, NIS: 1.1.16300.1
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  3. Posts : 16,949
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       #13

    WD used to be known for false positives but is accused of having improved - Test Microsoft Windows Defender 4.18 for Windows 10 (192315) | AV-TEST

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  4. Posts : 87
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       #14

    I was going by this cool scatter graph at the bottom:
    Virus Bulletin :: VB100 Comparative Review - December 2017

    I don't even see WD on it . . . I don't see a current one
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  5. Posts : 16,949
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       #15

    December 2017 is ancient history when it comes to anti-malware performance.

    I used to check several test sites when I was actively comparing antimalware applications but nowadays I just look at AVTest results every so often out of unproductive interest. I cannot recall details but I do remember that some test sites closed down a few years ago.

    AVTest results are updated every few months.

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  6. Posts : 87
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       #16

    Which free one do you think is good?

    Top 3 here . . . Kaspersky, Bitdefender, Avast

    Best Free Antivirus Software of 2019 | Tom's Guide
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  7. Posts : 16,949
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       #17

    mb1280 said:
    Which free one do you think is good?

    Top 3 here . . . Kaspersky, Bitdefender, Avast

    Best Free Antivirus Software of 2019 | Tom's Guide
    Windows defender
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       #18
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  9. Posts : 16,949
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       #19

    That article asks the question, "is it capable of protecting your device from every single online threat?", when the author ought to know full well that no antimalware application is "capable of protecting your device from every single online threat".

    That article asserts that, "compared to third-party products, it is slightly dragging behind, which is continuously being proved by lab test results", but the AVtest results tell a different story. In AVTest results, there was an almighty step change improvement in WD's effectiveness about two years ago and it now aquits itself well at every assessment.

    In the commentary about the Feb 2019 AVTest results, the author implies that there is a significant difference between assessment scores of 17.5 & assessment scores of 17.0 yet provides no reasoning for that.

    I have not read any articles by this author before and will not do so again. Nothing in that article makes me think he is competent.

    Many people in this forum install Malwarebytes [free] and use that as an on-demand scanner so they can get a free second opinion whilst retaining WD real-time protection & firewall. You might consider this if you are concerned about depending on WD alone.

    You might also consider searching the forum for other threads about antimalware. You will see some opinions that match mine and others that differ.


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    Last edited by Try3; 12 Sep 2019 at 02:04.
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       #20

    Also, that article says "If we take a look at AV-Test Best antiviruses chart, we won’t find Windows Defender among the Top Products."

    But they post a sreenshot of the AV-Test results from seven months ago to back that up. The latest AV-Test report says otherwise.

    Windows defender false positive - forced to allow threat-image.png
    Test antivirus software for Windows 10 - June 2019 | AV-TEST



    And Defender can be made even more effective by enabling PUP/PUA detection.

    Enable or Disable Windows Defender PUA Protection in Windows 10
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