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  1. Join Date : Nov 2016
    Posts : 10
    Windows 10
       5 Days Ago #1

    Windows 10 Pro VL V.1607 Build 14393.447 not fitting in a DVD


    Hi there
    I have tried many many things. I do get Windows 10 Pro x64 VL V.1607 Build 14393.447 but they are more than usual DVD storage space. So can't fit in DVD

    I then tried to get a little older version Windows 10 Pro x64 VL V.1607 Build 14393.351 updated Oct 2016 and tried to integrate November 8, 2016—KB3200970 (OS Build 14393.447) with NTlite, DISM and other methods. It does the job and test installation is at required build Build 14393.447 but again same problem. the resulting ISO file size increases more than a DVD.

    actually most win 10 build now use Install.ESD instead of Install.WIM. so whatever method I chose to slipstream Nov update to it, it first needs to convert ESD to WIM. Then only Install.wim can be serviced i-e integrated with updates. I played a lot with conversions.

    All what I need is an ISO that can fit in a DVD but when I install win 10 from this ISO/DVD, it gives me straight at the level of Windows 10 Pro x64 VL V.1607 Build 14393.447 so I do not have to apply nov 2016 update after OS installs.

    many ready ISO are showing up on internet but they are out of DVD size and mostly with install.ESD so I can't play/configure it later with my options.

    please give me some idea how to get an ISO/DVD sized installation media with my required build. I can Volume license it after install

    please suggest
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  2. Join Date : Oct 2015
    Posts : 25
    Windows 10 Home x64-bit
       4 Days Ago #2

    Hi,

    You don't need to Burn an ISO file to a DVD for installing Windows. You can download a software that create a virtual drive, like "VirtualClone Drive, or Daemon Tools or Magic ISO". With any of these software you can mount an ISO image as a virtual drive. So, download one of this, download the Windows ISO image file that you want, after that mount the ISO image and install WINDOWS. No need to buy DVD'S.
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  3. Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
    Posts : 9,068
    Windows 10 Pro
       4 Days Ago #3

    luarpc said: View Post
    Hi,

    You don't need to Burn an ISO file to a DVD for installing Windows. You can download a software that create a virtual drive, like "VirtualClone Drive, or Daemon Tools or Magic ISO". With any of these software you can mount an ISO image as a virtual drive. So, download one of this, download the Windows ISO image file that you want, after that mount the ISO image and install WINDOWS. No need to buy DVD'S.
    First, a clean install can't be done when ISO is mounted as a virtual drive. It must and can only be done when PC is booted from Windows install media, either DVD or a USB flash drive. Only an in-place upgrade can be started from a mounted ISO image.

    Second, It is totally unnecessary to download and install anything on Windows 10 to mount ISO and IMG images as virtual DVD. The feature is built-in in Windows since Windows 8; simply double click a disk image to mount it as virtual disk.

    Kari
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  4. Join Date : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,359
    Windows10
       4 Days Ago #4

    sunnyimran said: View Post
    Hi there
    I have tried many many things. I do get Windows 10 Pro x64 VL V.1607 Build 14393.447 but they are more than usual DVD storage space. So can't fit in DVD

    I then tried to get a little older version Windows 10 Pro x64 VL V.1607 Build 14393.351 updated Oct 2016 and tried to integrate November 8, 2016—KB3200970 (OS Build 14393.447) with NTlite, DISM and other methods. It does the job and test installation is at required build Build 14393.447 but again same problem. the resulting ISO file size increases more than a DVD.

    actually most win 10 build now use Install.ESD instead of Install.WIM. so whatever method I chose to slipstream Nov update to it, it first needs to convert ESD to WIM. Then only Install.wim can be serviced i-e integrated with updates. I played a lot with conversions.

    All what I need is an ISO that can fit in a DVD but when I install win 10 from this ISO/DVD, it gives me straight at the level of Windows 10 Pro x64 VL V.1607 Build 14393.447 so I do not have to apply nov 2016 update after OS installs.

    many ready ISO are showing up on internet but they are out of DVD size and mostly with install.ESD so I can't play/configure it later with my options.

    please give me some idea how to get an ISO/DVD sized installation media with my required build. I can Volume license it after install

    please suggest
    1) surely it will fit on a double layer dvd?

    2) Whys us a dvd anyway when a usb flash drive is easier?
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  5. Join Date : Nov 2016
    Posts : 10
    Windows 10
       4 Days Ago #5

    Kari said: View Post
    First, a clean install can't be done when ISO is mounted as a virtual drive. It must and can only be done when PC is booted from Windows install media, either DVD or a USB flash drive. Only an in-place upgrade can be started from a mounted ISO image.

    Second, It is totally unnecessary to download and install anything on Windows 10 to mount ISO and IMG images as virtual DVD. The feature is built-in in Windows since Windows 8; simply double click a disk image to mount it as virtual disk.

    Kari
    Kari, you said it all what I would have replied to this. thanks
    Situation is I have few machines to be installed windows 10 updated. Preference is booting by a prepared Win 10 DVD. USB can be last options if nothing is helping.

    I do have DVD DL but no idea that a 6.4GB 8in1 install media I got from somewhere is not burning on this Dual Layer and I don't want to find problem with that instead to get the main job done i-e Win 10 install. Network boot and WDS is not an option here.

    Can I not get an updated (Nov 2016,V.1607 Build 14393.447) edition ISO that can fit in a 4.7 GB DVD?
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  6. Join Date : Nov 2016
    Posts : 10
    Windows 10
       4 Days Ago #6

    cereberus said: View Post
    1) surely it will fit on a double layer dvd?

    2) Whys us a dvd anyway when a usb flash drive is easier?
    agreed on USB devices. much better than DVD.
    But problem with USB device: Read/Write is open. Once a USB installer Flash drive is ready it can be accidentally put inside a machine which may be infected or it can be mistakenly used for casual data storage drive.
    can we lock/unlock USB read,write. I am in favor of lock and unlock both. no permanently locking because same USB drive can be used for making it ready for future updates

    I do have DVD DL but no idea that a 6.4GB 8in1 install media I got from somewhere is not burning on this brand new blank Dual Layer DVD and I don't want to find problem with that instead to get the main job done i-e Win 10 install. Network boot and WDS is not an option here.
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  7. Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 6,355
    Windows 10 Pro
       4 Days Ago #7

    sunnyimran said: View Post
    I do have DVD DL but no idea that a 6.4GB 8in1 install media I got from somewhere
    So, just to be clear here.... you want to install Windows on multiple computers in a corporate (volume license) environment with an 8 in 1 ISO file that you "got from somewhere"?
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  8. Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 16,422
    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       4 Days Ago #8

    sunnyimran said: View Post
    agreed on USB devices. much better than DVD.
    But problem with USB device: Read/Write is open. Once a USB installer Flash drive is ready it can be accidentally put inside a machine which may be infected or it can be mistakenly used for casual data storage drive.
    can we lock/unlock USB read,write. I am in favor of lock and unlock both. no permanently locking because same USB drive can be used for making it ready for future updates

    I do have DVD DL but no idea that a 6.4GB 8in1 install media I got from somewhere is not burning on this brand new blank Dual Layer DVD and I don't want to find problem with that instead to get the main job done i-e Win 10 install. Network boot and WDS is not an option here.
    Not sure where you got an install media that is 6.4 GB. If you're looking to just install 14393, how about the MS Media Creation Tool? It will download and, at your option, install Win 10 14393. After install, there will be some updates to do to get it to 14393.447, but it works fine. Just choose the options you want/need. Windows 10
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  9. Join Date : Nov 2016
    Posts : 10
    Windows 10
       4 Days Ago #9

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    So, just to be clear here.... you want to install Windows on multiple computers in a corporate (volume license) environment with an 8 in 1 ISO file that you "got from somewhere"?
    This is a test environment only. Media I got from 'somewhere' is just one way of trying while I am trying all other ways possible in search of the task mentioned in my OP
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  10. Join Date : Nov 2016
    Posts : 10
    Windows 10
       4 Days Ago #10

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    Not sure where you got an install media that is 6.4 GB. If you're looking to just install 14393, how about the MS Media Creation Tool? It will download and, at your option, install Win 10 14393. After install, there will be some updates to do to get it to 14393.447, but it works fine. Just choose the options you want/need. Windows 10
    I tried Media Creation tool earlier. Problem in resuming downloads once download is disrupted and also it ends up giving you an ESD file instead of older Install.wim file.

    Ok when i am successfull in getting ISO from Media creation tool to build 14393.nnn . I have already downloaded cumulative update of Nov 8 for win10. which will bring it to 143939.447. Can you guide me how to build an updated DVD after Media Creation Tool stuff?
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