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  1. Joined : Sep 2016
    Calgary
    Posts : 74
    Windows 10 Anniversary
       23 Oct 2016 #111

    DeathStalker said: View Post
    You should give a look at Winpatrol, http://www.winpatrol.com


    Also teach your son to hit CTRL ALT DELETE to close popups when these warning popups or *player windows* appear when he is surfing porn (yeah I know, NO young man would EVER look or want to look at nekkid women or sex, but just pretend he MIGHT have since that is where most malware I cleaned off computer comes from lol), most are set up so that when you click what you THINK is the X to close, it's REALLY permission to start downloading viruses.

    Also on the SAS thing. I got a free lifetime subscription to SAS Pro a long time ago, and I love it. I would gladly have paid $19.99 for the pro version, but I don't know about this 29.99 a year thing...... I know everyone is doing it, but......... the free version is awesome and more than adequate for most home users.


    Oh and one great thing about Winpatrol is that if you have a problem or question, many times it's Bret Lowery, the programmer/owner who will answer it. He works harder than anyone I have seen to keep is safe and his products remain sort of obscure........ I don't know why.
    Well if he is surfing porn, I haven't caught him yet. But I agree there is definitely risk there. I have taught him alot about security and the kind of things to trust, and other things to avoid etc., but recently he has definitely been doing some riskier downloading of game hacks and mods etc. This stuff is chronically filled with viruses and he insists he's being smart but the proof is in the pudding. LOL. I'm setting up the "security grid" like Simrick suggested and am definitely going to monitor his downloads a lot more closely. I still want him to have freedom but not the ability to be reckless.

    As for SAS, that's definitely one I'm going to try. I'll take a look at Winpatrol as well. Have a good one Deathstalker.
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  2. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,117
    W10Prox64
       23 Oct 2016 #112

    WinPatrol is a very good program - this guy even has put out an anti-ransomware now.
    As far as protecting young ones from things like porn, gambling, adult sites, sharing sites (which even advertise even on young gamers' sites like Minecraft mods): You could use OpenDNS for your DNS servers, then create a free account, and select all the types of sites you want blocked. Then, because most ISPs provide dynamic IP addresses to home users, you'd want to install a little program called Marc's Updater, which periodically checks what your IP address is, and links it to your OpenDNS account, so that your specific blocking selections follow your IP address as it changes. Works very well; I've been using it for years, and find it is a must.
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  3. Joined : Sep 2016
    Calgary
    Posts : 74
    Windows 10 Anniversary
       24 Oct 2016 #113

    simrick said: View Post
    I would make these suggestions for after this is finished and you're up and running again:

    Password protect your administrative-level user account. Create a limited user account for your son. That way, anything he wants to install must pass your scrutiny and virus/malware scans first. Research the things he wants to install before installing them, as some of these game mods can be a source of infection (speaking from experience).

    Make Macrium images of your OS drive on a regular basis, (once a week or so), so if something gets in, you can easily restore an image and be back in business.

    Use a layered approach to protection. As an example:
    Avast! (free or paid - I'd only use the 3 web shields + software updater, nothing else) or ESET NOD32 (paid)
    Malwarebytes Antimalware (MBAM) (free or paid)
    Malwarebytes Antiexploit (MBAE) (free or paid)
    CryptoPrevent (free or paid)
    SuperAntiSpyware (SAS) (free or paid)
    Firefox browser as default, with Flash and Java set to Ask to Activate, WOT plugin for browsing safety, LastPass Password Manager (never save passwords in the browsers), and another plugin which shall remain unnamed (per forum rules).

    The free versions of MBAM and SAS are on-demand only, and update/run when you call them. CryptoPrevent sets group policies to prevent malware from running from known places (like appdata folders) and needs to be updated manually. MBAE protects browsers from zero-day exploits.

    It's a good opportunity to teach your son about internet safety and cautions when downloading/installing things. I did this myself with my son, using these methods, over the course of a year. He then began "cleaning" out all his friends' infected computers and teaching them internet safety.

    Hope that helps!
    I don't know why I'm struggling so much but I can't find where I schedule the scans in Avast. I must have spent an hour looking and messing around looking for it. Did they change something? I know I found it last time.
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  4. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,117
    W10Prox64
       24 Oct 2016 #114

    LAPS said: View Post
    I don't know why I'm struggling so much but I can't find where I schedule the scans in Avast. I must have spent an hour looking and messing around looking for it. Did they change something? I know I found it last time.
    Oh! No...you are right - it's very convoluted. Working from memory:
    Click on scans, select quick scan; see at the bottom 3 links: (details/virus chest/something else?)
    Click the details (or whatever the first one is), then on the left side of the window that opens, the last selection is schedule. Yeah, really difficult to find.
    Then, change to full scan, and do the same thing.

    Again, working from memory, here's how I set it up:
    First, I only install the 3 shields, and the software updater. Everything else is just bloat.
    Quick scan is once a day, Mon-Sat, to start scanning at a time I know the computer will be on.
    Full scan is once a week, on Sunday, and also at a time I know it will be on.
    In the settings (for the full scan), there is an option for "archived" files (zip, ISO, etc.). You can select which archives are fully scanned and not skipped. For the Full, Sunday scan, I would select EVERY archive to be fully scanned (especially on your son's computer), because that's how a lot of (Minecraft, etc.) game mods are delivered.
    Also, on your son's computer, you can set up an email notification, so you will know immediately if something is found. Then you can jump on infections right away, before they get a hold of the system too deeply.
    After everything is as you want it, you can backup the settings, at the very bottom of General, and save that to be imported if needed later (saves time).
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  5. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,117
    W10Prox64
       24 Oct 2016 #115

    Don't forget OpenDNS for your DNS servers. Either use them on your NICs, or use them in your router. Using them on your NICs will protect the system, while using them in your router will protect everything that connects to your wifi, including friends and family who visit and connect. Doing this will prevent you from navigating to known malicious sites.

    If you want to personalize your blocking strategy, we'll have to go over creating a free account, setting up the blocking strategy, and installing Marc's Updater to keep track of your dynamic IP.
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  6. Joined : Sep 2016
    Calgary
    Posts : 74
    Windows 10 Anniversary
       24 Oct 2016 #116

    simrick said: View Post
    Oh! No...you are right - it's very convoluted. Working from memory:
    Click on scans, select quick scan; see at the bottom 3 links: (details/virus chest/something else?)
    Click the details (or whatever the first one is), then on the left side of the window that opens, the last selection is schedule. Yeah, really difficult to find.
    Then, change to full scan, and do the same thing.

    Again, working from memory, here's how I set it up:
    First, I only install the 3 shields, and the software updater. Everything else is just bloat.
    Quick scan is once a day, Mon-Sat, to start scanning at a time I know the computer will be on.
    Full scan is once a week, on Sunday, and also at a time I know it will be on.
    In the settings (for the full scan), there is an option for "archived" files (zip, ISO, etc.). You can select which archives are fully scanned and not skipped. For the Full, Sunday scan, I would select EVERY archive to be fully scanned (especially on your son's computer), because that's how a lot of (Minecraft, etc.) game mods are delivered.
    Also, on your son's computer, you can set up an email notification, so you will know immediately if something is found. Then you can jump on infections right away, before they get a hold of the system too deeply.
    After everything is as you want it, you can backup the settings, at the very bottom of General, and save that to be imported if needed later (saves time).
    Nice.. Thanks. Still pissed at myself for not finding that. LOL. All done. Almost ready to make my Macruim Backup. Gettings a few more things all setup and I'm good to go
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  7. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,117
    W10Prox64
       24 Oct 2016 #117

    LAPS said: View Post
    Nice.. Thanks. Still pissed at myself for not finding that. LOL. All done. Almost ready to make my Macruim Backup. Gettings a few more things all setup and I'm good to go
    Yeah, I don't know why they make it so difficult to find.
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  8. Joined : Sep 2016
    Calgary
    Posts : 74
    Windows 10 Anniversary
       24 Oct 2016 #118

    simrick said: View Post
    Don't forget OpenDNS for your DNS servers. Either use them on your NICs, or use them in your router. Using them on your NICs will protect the system, while using them in your router will protect everything that connects to your wifi, including friends and family who visit and connect. Doing this will prevent you from navigating to known malicious sites.

    If you want to personalize your blocking strategy, we'll have to go over creating a free account, setting up the blocking strategy, and installing Marc's Updater to keep track of your dynamic IP.
    I just setup using the OpenDNS servers for IPv4. There are no setting showing for IPv6 so I looked it up and it says that the IPv6 servers are not fully functional yet. I have the Google DNS servers (IPv4 & IPv6) setup in my router, and now IPv4 (OpenDNS) on my WiFi connection. I think I'm going to stop using the Ethernet connection as it keeps giving me Windows update errors when I try and use it. I haven't decided yet if I'm going to personalize a blocking strategy. I will see how things go with the current setups we have discussed. I also have downloaded and installed WinPatrol but I don't have that setup yet. Not really sure what I should do with it honestly but its there.
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  9. Joined : Sep 2016
    Calgary
    Posts : 74
    Windows 10 Anniversary
       24 Oct 2016 #119

    I keep getting this popup. Does this have something to do with some of the other protection software I installed? Or possibly the OpenDNS server? I never recall seeing this before, is this a windows thing?

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  10. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,117
    W10Prox64
       24 Oct 2016 #120

    LAPS said: View Post
    I just setup using the OpenDNS servers for IPv4. There are no setting showing for IPv6 so I looked it up and it says that the IPv6 servers are not fully functional yet. I have the Google DNS servers (IPv4 & IPv6) setup in my router, and now IPv4 (OpenDNS) on my WiFi connection. I think I'm going to stop using the Ethernet connection as it keeps giving me Windows update errors when I try and use it. I haven't decided yet if I'm going to personalize a blocking strategy. I will see how things go with the current setups we have discussed. I also have downloaded and installed WinPatrol but I don't have that setup yet. Not really sure what I should do with it honestly but its there.
    Yes, chances are your ISP doesn't even support IPv6 yet. OpenDNS's are
    2620:0:ccc::2
    2620:0:ccd::2

    You can check here at the KAME Project
    The KAME project

    Let me just say this about personalizing a blocking scheme: Many site that kids go to, have TONS of ads, and many of these ads link to undesirable sites, exposing your kids (and us adults) to things they just don't need to see or do (not to mention the "sharing sites" and infections). I would seriously consider it. You can always make changes/tweak it for your personal use.

    WinPatrol is going to notify you of everything - and I mean EVERYTHING - that goes on in your system. It's very good at what it does, as long as you pay attention to what it's telling you. For me personally, I find so many notifications get annoying, and I start to not pay attention to them. But, that's just me. I have enough distractions; I don't need anymore.


    LAPS said: View Post
    I keep getting this popup. Does this have something to do with some of the other protection software I installed? Or possibly the OpenDNS server? I never recall seeing this before, is this a windows thing?

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Windows SmartScreen.PNG 
Views:	2 
Size:	14.2 KB 
ID:	107412
    This SmartScreen window happens when you're not connected to the internet and Windows can't verify a program that tries to run. That program is by Paramount Software. It should not say Unknown Publisher.
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