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  1. Joined : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 6,226
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       02 Sep 2016 #11

    You need to make your feelings known to MS via feedback or their technet site. Expressing your feelings here can at best make you feel better.

    Solution/fix in my post above. You do need to be aware of changes MS make in their build upgrades; read about it first before deciding to apply it. If your edition allows, defer upgrades.
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  2. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 32
    Windows 10
       02 Sep 2016 #12

    dalchina said: View Post
    You do need to be aware of changes MS make in their build upgrades; read about it first before deciding to apply it. If your edition allows, defer upgrades.
    Blame the victim.
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  3. Joined : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 6,226
    Win 10 Pro (1607)
       02 Sep 2016 #13

    Sadly MS doesn't give us a nice neat list of changes to look at or accept... so the only option is to act defensively. It's a shame it's like that, but that's MS for you.
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  4. Joined : Jul 2016
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10
       24 Sep 2016 #14

    This is hopeless for low tech people like me. I just want a simple computer that I can use without having to keep fearing what Windows may do to complicate things. Why can't I decide when my computer should restart? I tried to stop Windows from doing this auto restart by Googling and following those steps. I did manage to opt out auto restart but it restated it anyway. I was in the middle of doing something but got kicked out. The computer began to update without asking and it took over an hour to finish. After the update, I went to see if I can remove the auto restart option but the layouts didn't even look the same anymore. Then I got a warning stating that I needed to reconnect my File History drive. I don't recall ever disconnecting the File History drive since I didn't even know that exist! Windows seems to get more and more ridiculous after each update. I think they want us to get a Mac.
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  5. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 32
    Windows 10
       24 Sep 2016 #15

    Sorry, edited because of duplicate info. Solution was provided in Post #5.

    How to Prevent automatic restart in Windows 10 Anniversary Update?
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  6. Joined : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 6,226
    Win 10 Pro (1607)
       24 Sep 2016 #16

    Hi, like you, I'm a victim of MS design decisions, if you wish to look at it that way. Agreed, their policy on restart is crazy, complicated by the difference in Win 10 home and Pro, and continual periodic tweaks and changes to the way these things are controlled, without prior explanation except by web articles people might happen to write.

    I have the advantage of having learnt to think defensively over many years, and having used disk imaging through several generations of Windows. In all that time I've experienced unbootable PCs, loss of partition structure, disk failure.

    But I've never lost any significant data.

    PCs are not yet- and may not be in my lifetime- a pure consumer item. That's because, in part, MS has not yet completely separated the OS from user settings and data- and I doubt they ever will.

    ============================================
    Restart and updates.
    1. '10 Pro lets you schedule restarts.
    2. Active hours (anniversary edition) allows you to set up to a 12 hour period in which Windows will not restart
    Windows Update Active Hours - Change in Windows 10
    3. I have noted, however, that even if an update requires a restart, and notifies me of this during this period, a restart does not occur at the end of it. This surprised me.
    4. Running 'Don't Sleep' - a free utility- allows me to block restarts (and sleep/hibernate...) or schedule them.
    (It clearly shouldn't be necessary to have to resort to such things).

    Helpful people publish things like this:
    Windows Update Automatic Updates - Enable or Disable in Windows 10
    Last edited by Brink; 24 Sep 2016 at 16:45. Reason: links
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  7. Joined : Jul 2016
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10
       24 Sep 2016 #17

    dalchina said: View Post
    Hi, like you, I'm a victim of MS design decisions, if you wish to look at it that way. Agreed, their policy on restart is crazy, complicated by the difference in Win 10 home and Pro, and continual periodic tweaks and changes to the way these things are controlled, without prior explanation except by web articles people might happen to write.

    I have the advantage of having learnt to think defensively over many years, and having used disk imaging through several generations of Windows. In all that time I've experienced unbootable PCs, loss of partition structure, disk failure.

    But I've never lost any significant data.

    PCs are not yet- and may not be in my lifetime- a pure consumer item. That's because, in part, MS has not yet completely separated the OS from user settings and data- and I doubt they ever will.

    ============================================
    Restart and updates.
    1. '10 Pro lets you schedule restarts.
    2. Active hours (anniversary edition) allows you to set up to a 12 hour period in which Windows will not restart
    Windows Update Active Hours - Change in Windows 10
    3. I have noted, however, that even if an update requires a restart, and notifies me of this during this period, a restart does not occur at the end of it. This surprised me.
    4. Running 'Don't Sleep' - a free utility- allows me to block restarts (and sleep/hibernate...) or schedule them.
    (It clearly shouldn't be necessary to have to resort to such things).

    Helpful people publish things like this:
    Windows Update Automatic Updates - Enable or Disable in Windows 10
    Victim is how I feel now. The computer restarted this morning and within 10 hour it wanted to restart again. Why on earth would they make such design to restart my computer that often? When it restarted this morning I couldn't access my computer for over an hour. I certainly don't want it to restart a second time on the same day!

    Unfortunately, I have Windows 10 Home, not pro, so I can't schedule restart. I could see the window but everything is greyed out and I can't click on the drop down menu to make change. I may have to do install that Don't Sleep to stop this restarting madness. I miss Windows 7, it was simple and straight forward. If not because some of the software I am using require Windows 10 I would remove 10 and reinstall 7. I just want to use a computer without having to deal with these new "problems" MS creates everyday. So frustrating!
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  8. Joined : Aug 2016
    S/E England
    Posts : 820
    10 Home x64 (1607), Pro x86 (1511)
       25 Sep 2016 #18

    tannim said: View Post
    ...given that "active hours" is a broken concept..
    althetrainer said: View Post
    Unfortunately, I have Windows 10 Home, not pro, so I can't schedule restart.
    Along with Active Hours the AU introduced a new Restart Options setting. This is normally greyed-out, but when a restart is pending it becomes active. @althetrainer it's available in the Home edition too..

    Windows Update - Use Custom Restart Time in Windows 10


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    Last edited by Brink; 25 Sep 2016 at 08:56. Reason: added tutorial link
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  9. Joined : Jul 2016
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10
       25 Sep 2016 #19

    Bree said: View Post
    Along with Active Hours the AU introduced a new Restart Options setting. This is normally greyed-out, but when a restart is pending it becomes active. @althetrainer it's available in the Home edition too..

    Windows Update - Use Custom Restart Time in Windows 10


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    Yes, I found out when I came back from outside I saw a popup stating my computer would restart in a few minutes. It was a good thing that I came in before it restarted again. Seriously? How many time do they need to restart my computer on the same day? You're right about being able to schedule when pending becomes active. I chose "later" then it let me schedule my next restart - Sept 30. I wish there was an option to disable auto restart all together. Windows 7 was so much easier, it never forced to restart, just waited until the computer powered off then finished installing update when the computer got turned on again. The updates never affected my computer performance. Now, this update is running in the background and slowing my computer down. Really annoying.
    Last edited by Brink; 25 Sep 2016 at 08:56.
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
    Trnava
    Posts : 1,627
    Windows 10 Home x64
       25 Sep 2016 #20

    althetrainer said: View Post
    I wish there was an option to disable auto restart all together.
    You can try this settings, but no one has ever reported if it is still working. Run CMD as admin and copy/paste:

    reg add "HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU" /v "AlwaysAutoRebootAtScheduledTime" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
    reg add "HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU" /v "NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f

    But the simplest solution would be to disable Windows Update alltogether and install updates only when you have time.
    You can sign up at Technical Security Notifications from Microsoft , to receive an email once new updates are available.
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