De-Activated W10IP

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       #1

    De-Activated W10IP


    My W10IP has been de-Activated for the last couple of upgrades (I think it may have failed when I upgraded to b10586).

    Can this be fixed?
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       #2

    If you upgraded from windows 7/8 originally, use old key in activation menu.
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    I've been using a (continuously) upgraded VM, since the start of the Insider Preview program.

    I forgot that MS changed policy and now want me to sacrifice W7 to run the test version of W10.
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    My guess is the change in policy is so people can't just install the latest Insider Preview and get 10 Free, conceivably forever, as long as they stay an insider. I thought you were good though, if you were an insider from day one? It's only if you reinstall/clean install that activation fails? You may have to use a Qualifying OS product code to activate, but that code won't be blacklisted or anything. You could go back to that OS, install it and use it, after wiping the Insider preview using that key for activation. I don't think you can't legally use them both at the same time, as per the EULA. Not that I totally understand all the legalease, etc. I've done the free upgrade, then reinstalled the original OS using the original key, as a test, and it activated just fine.
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       #5

    Thanks for the replies. :)
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  6. Posts : 15,010
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    Superfly mentioned in another thread, that one of the insider builds switched the generic key to a KMS key, and thus fails activation. Doing a change key and entering the correct generic key fixes it. Maybe run showkey and see what key is in use? Then try changing it if need be?
    Windows 10 Home - YTMG3-N6DKC-DKB77-7M9GH-8HVX7
    Windows 10 Home SL- BT79Q-G7N6G-PGBYW-4YWX6-6F4BT
    Windows 10 Pro - VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T

    I can't remember what thread he mentioned it in or I'd post a link.
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       #7

    Thanks alphanumeric


    alphanumeric said:
    Superfly mentioned in another thread, that one of the insider builds switched the generic key to a KMS key, and thus fails activation. Doing a change key and entering the correct generic key fixes it. Maybe run showkey and see what key is in use? Then try changing it if need be?
    Windows 10 Home - YTMG3-N6DKC-DKB77-7M9GH-8HVX7
    Windows 10 Home SL- BT79Q-G7N6G-PGBYW-4YWX6-6F4BT
    Windows 10 Pro - VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T

    I can't remember what thread he mentioned it in or I'd post a link.
    I tried the W10 Pro key last week, but it didn't work.

    I'll try those keys again once W10IP b14279 finishes installing.
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    I think it will use that key by default on a clean install. I'm guessing that's what your trying now?
    With the new rules in place, I think there needs to be a digital entitlement in place, even if your running the Insider Preview? You need to do the free upgrade just to run the preview.
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    alphanumeric said:
    With the new rules in place, I think there needs to be a digital entitlement in place, even if your running the Insider Preview? You need to do the free upgrade just to run the preview.
    That seems to be the case.

    I'm not going to replace my W7, just to try out "buggy" W10 betas.
    The other "by design" W10 annoyances are still going to be present (even if the glitches aren't).
    Note:
    Most of my W10 upgrades have only displayed minor glitches (usually limited to an additional reboot to fix the mouse).
    W10IP b14271 trashed a bunch of stuff though.

    I "reloaded" W10IP b14267 and upgraded that to b14279, which seems to be working without the b14271 issues.
    It didn't like the Pro key either.
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  10. Posts : 15,010
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    Yeah, once the official consumer release came on the scene they changed the rules as far as the Insider preview is concerned.. If you were already running an Insider Preview from a clean install, it stays activated as long as you keep upgrading to the next preview. If you don't, activation eventually times out. Clean install now though, and unless you originally upgraded from 7 or 8, it won't activate. I guess they don't want people just getting a free ride by running the preview for ever? I'm not saying I agree with it, or that's its fair? Just my guess why they changed the rules. In your case it sounds like a glitch messed up your activation status and now your screwed.
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