Will updates ever install if you just shut down?

hawkman · 07 Sep 2015

Its the power button action then,
Your computer never actually turns off.

Roy

spark001uk · 07 Sep 2015

I don't shut it down on the button, I use power / shut down on the start menu. However, I just enabled unavailable power options and I see I have fast start active. But according to an article I read earlier, if I disable fast start I also disable hibernate, which I want to keep in case of a critical battery. Unless I'm wrong? It's not too bad though, I also found out I can just hold Shift and click shut down, and it performs a genuine shut down.
I suppose if the hibernate disabling I read about isn't true then I could disable fast start, will it make much of a difference? Bearing in mind it's a new ultrabook, with an 8GB/1TB SSHD?

WhyMe · 07 Sep 2015

spark001uk said:

I suppose if the hibernate disabling I read about isn't true then I could disable fast start, will it make much of a difference? Bearing in mind it's a new ultrabook, with an 8GB/1TB SSHD?

Hibernate and fast startup are co-dependent. Like I twice said before, disabling 'Fast Startup' is the option you want to disable if you want to automatically install updates on shutdown with a single click. :) That was what you asked for in your original post. Hence why I made the suggestion.

spark001uk · 07 Sep 2015

WhyMe said:

Hibernate and fast startup are co-dependent. Like I twice said before, disabling 'Fast Startup' is the option you want to disable if you want to automatically install updates on shutdown with a single click. :) That was what you asked for in your original post. Hence why I made the suggestion.

Nicely edited there! I was about to say I've only just discovered fast start was on, since reading the link. Seems a bit odd they've gone down this route, I always liked having a normal shutdown as standard! Whereas now if I want a proper shutdown I have to forego the low battery hibernation,!

WhyMe · 07 Sep 2015

I do get the logic that MS used here. I also think it is flawed.

spark001uk · 07 Sep 2015

I think it's flawed too, for the reason I first stated. The average Joe who just wants to use the computer for a while each day and shut it down, having no interaction with Windows update, could unbeknown to themselves be piling up the updates!

spark001uk · 08 Sep 2015

So, slightly different angle then, do you think fast start is worth it, on newer machines especially? Mine has a hybrid drive with 8gb cache so it's pretty quick anyway?

WhyMe · 08 Sep 2015

@spark001uk

Every machine is unique. It all depends on your unique combination of installed hardware and software, your battery performance, the way you use your laptop. Loads of variables. All you can do is give it a go for maybe a week. See how the pros and cons weigh up. Then make an informed choice based on personal experience. After all, it's just a couple of clicks to disable and another couple to re-enable.

fredc · 08 Sep 2015

spark001uk said:

So, slightly different angle then, do you think fast start is worth it, on newer machines especially? Mine has a hybrid drive with 8gb cache so it's pretty quick anyway?

Well i just disabled "fast start" because of freezing issues and no more computer freezes , thanks whoever suggested trying that . After rebooting numerous times with "fast start" disabled i see no difference , i really don't so i would say not worth it but everyones setup is different .

My laptop is about 3 to 4 years old , Intel i5 and 6 gig's of ram .