1. Joined : Mar 2014
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       04 Oct 2016 #1

    Lenovo won’t make Windows 10 phones


    Lenovo won’t make Windows 10 phones due to Microsoft’s commitment issues

    Lenovo’s COO, Gianfranco Lanci, has said that the Chinese tech giant doesn’t intend to release any new phones running Windows 10 Mobile. This is because he doubts Microsoft’s commitment to its floundering smartphone platform.
    Lenovo wons commitment issues
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  2. Joined : Mar 2015
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       04 Oct 2016 #2

    Thanks for the heads up Paul. Unfortunately it sounds like another nail in the coffin of Windows Mobile.
    Personally I think they are great phones.

    More similar news here Microsoft Cedes Lumia Support Services to Third Party As Brand Demise Is Near
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  3. Joined : Dec 2014
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       04 Oct 2016 #3

    same here I think they are great, just need someone to make that committment
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  4. Joined : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
    Posts : 1,341
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       04 Oct 2016 #4

    After spending all of its time (since W7) wrecking the Desktop GUI, it would be the "icing on the cake", if MS dropped its crazy dream of conquering the mobile market.
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  5.    10 Oct 2016 #5

    You really shouldn't "want" Microsoft to fail in the mobile market. I think it will anyway, but tech companies need to succeed in that space, especially as PC sales continue to flush away.

    I take it Lehnerus2000 that you mean to say, if mobile initiatives fall away, then Microsoft will have more time to focus on the desktop/Explorer based portions of Windows, am I right? That won't really happen. That doesn't make good business sense in 2016 or 2017. Do not deny to yourself that the PC is dying. It will still be around say five or ten years from now, but not as a progressive market force.

    Mobile development (as much as I hate it) needed to happen. That is where the growing customer base will be. But Microsoft was sleeping on it for too long. It's all in Google's and Apple's hands now.
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  6. Joined : Aug 2014
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       10 Oct 2016 #6

    Exasperation


    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    You really shouldn't "want" Microsoft to fail in the mobile market.
    "Icing on the cake" wasn't meant to be taken as an expression of joy.
    It was exasperation (that's why I used the "Doh" smiley).

    I don't care if MS succeeds in the mobile segment or if they fail (see below).

    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    I think it will anyway, but tech companies need to succeed in that space, especially as PC sales continue to flush away.
    How many years is it going to be before all businesses replace desktops (or their equivalent) with iPhones (or their equivalent)?

    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    I take it Lehnerus2000 that you mean to say, if mobile initiatives fall away, then Microsoft will have more time to focus on the desktop/Explorer based portions of Windows, am I right? That won't really happen.
    What I meant was that MS trashed the goodwill that they had built up with W7 (IIRC, you preferred Vista).

    There was never any need to trash the desktop OS (W7) to develop a mobile OS (W8)
    Most users don't care how stuff actually works, as long as the GUI is basically the same as before.
    MS should have developed two completely separate GUIs.

    Behind the scenes they could have worked on unifying the code base.
    Given MS' current coding performance, it probably would have taken two major releases, before they could actually successfully merge both GUIs.

    If W10 fails, it's more likely that MS will completely drop the mobile and desktop markets and spend all of their time on their "Cloud" products.

    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    Mobile development (as much as I hate it) needed to happen. That is where the growing customer base will be. But Microsoft was sleeping on it for too long. It's all in Google's and Apple's hands now.
    Agreed.

    However, I expect that mobile growth will drop steeply, as market saturation will be achieved much faster than was the case with desktop PCs.
    Adoption rates will drop to match replacement rates, like in the desktop PC market.
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 10 Oct 2016 at 23:47. Reason: Clarification
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  7.    11 Oct 2016 #7

    Windows phones are like 'a dead man walking'. They simply do not have a chance, personally I have a Nexus 6P (new model is called the Pixel) and I love, love, love it.
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  8. Joined : Jun 2014
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    Windows 10 Pro
       11 Oct 2016 #8

    I'm very happy with my Windows Phone running the latest Insider build. I plan on using a Windows Phone for as long as I can. If MS gives up on the Windows Phone I'll go back to a Android Phone. I still have my old Galaxy Phone if I ever need it. What's really nice about it is it's the pre-exploding model.
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  9. Joined : Mar 2015
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       11 Oct 2016 #9

    Winuser said: View Post
    I'm very happy with my Windows Phone running the latest Insider build. I plan on using a Windows Phone for as long as I can. If MS gives up on the Windows Phone I'll go back to a Android Phone. I still have my old Galaxy Phone if I ever need it. What's really nice about it is it's the pre-exploding model.
    yup, same here..
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  10.    12 Oct 2016 #10

    BugMeister said: View Post
    yup, same here..
    Hi there

    Whatever the merits or otherwise of Windows Phones -- one has to accept that it really is DOOMED -- no future in it whatsoever.

    Unfortunately best technology doesn't always win

    Examples -- Tape cassettes vs Minidisc, Betamax vs VHS, OS/2 vs Windows, Token ring vs TCP/IP, NTFS vs zillions of better Linux file systems, NTSC vs PAL (in fact the old US TV standard was so hideous we used to call it Never Twice Same Colour )-- some of the old programs still have ludicrously "purple" faces etc -- most US citizens could never understand why I often used to laugh years ago at even watching the commercials --the colour was simply a total JOKE !!!. Of course now the whole TV system is different with satellite etc.

    I think though you'll have to regard Windows phone as dead now -- it's almost impossible to get any really useful apps on it like Banking, Pay by mobile, Mobile tickets for trains (m-tickets) (what are those people in US might say !!), planes etc, Hotel bookings, Amazon shopping etc etc. Also if you ever visit London it's really easy to use APPLE or ANDROID phone for public transport "Oyster card scanner" readers -- no messing around with ticket machines etc. Other cities also implementing same cashless and mobile phone scanning systems too. Not on Windows phones though.

    Supermarkets too etc -- simply put phone on a touch device and bill is paid (Iceland up to 50 EUR - if greater then simply add your pin) . In UK I think it's 30 GBP and other EU countries about 30 - 50 EUR. Great for quick payments --I rarely carry ANY cash these days.

    I don't think Windows phones have any of these sorts of very CONVENIENT apps on them.

    Cheers
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