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  1. Join Date : Aug 2014
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    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       03 Oct 2016 #1

    Market Share - W7 Up, All Others Down


    In September, all main Desktop OS categories lost market share, apart from W7.
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  2.    10 Oct 2016 #2

    It seems Windows 10 is about level, so no decreases. Anecdotally, outside of retail and on this forum, I don't really see Windows 10 making a big dent in terms of defining user trends. Let say by this graph that Windows 10 occupies about 23% of the Windows market in 2016. I'll hazard to bet that when Windows XP occupied about 23% of the market in 2012 or 2013, that it equaled a greater number of people, since PCs were in heavier use at the time.

    When I visit people's houses or workplaces, or look at my own work place, Windows 7 still seems to rule. Other than that, it's Android, then iOS.
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  3. Join Date : Nov 2015
    Posts : 21
    Windows 10 1511
       10 Oct 2016 #3

    NM's statistics are not very good. Some time ago, their numbers showed a rise of xp users by +40% (relatively) to the month before. Go figure. I don't know who is supervising these statistics, but maybe no one.
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  4. Join Date : Jun 2015
    Posts : 256
    Windows 7 (SP1)
       10 Oct 2016 #4

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    In September, all main Desktop OS categories lost market share, apart from W7.
    Interesting, maybe many like me have returned to Windows 7, I dislike Windows 10 intensely it has not grown on me at all despite having used it for over a year, there are now two trend company's showing this trend StatCounter also shows more or less the same result.

    WTF? Windows 10 now actually losing market share

    I'm hard pressed outside these forums to actually find anyone who likes Windows 10, though that could just be typical of my peer group, and a few have asked me to get them 'back' to Windows 7 that along with Microsoft no longer pushing the free upgrade is probably why.
    Of course it does not help that Windows mobile devices are al but dead which was Microsoft's vision for Windows 8/10.
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  5. Join Date : May 2016
    Posts : 523
    Windows 10
       10 Oct 2016 #5

    I believe the W10 is bad as it can be.
    It makes me lose many days and days, by every update, trying to FIX errors.
    I think MS is not doing any testing, is just relying on the Public Beta Testing and are also hoping to get feedback from ALL Pc around the world.
    With update 222/223 the Settings GUI is just Broken.
    I just got a Windows Update for HD 4600 and there is a Error on Event Viewer about igfx driver
    For me, I am just sorry for I myself that I went that crazy path moving to W10 on the believe that was good.
    Half of the Year, I lost just going around MS Windows Errors.
    2016 is a year for to forget.
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  6. Join Date : May 2015
    Posts : 96
    Windows7 Pro and Windows 10 Pro
       10 Oct 2016 #6

    I'm SHOCKED!!!! Nah, totally kidding, this is exactly what I was expecting. I know a lot of people rolling back. It isn't just the paradigm of Windows 10. It's primarily the forced updates that hose folks' machines. They'd rather install SP1 and use a third part security program than chance an update crashing their machine, or losing their data. Sorry, but until Microsoft wakes up and brings back their testing/QA team it's only going to get worse, at least until 2020. I wouldn't be surprised to see Corporations slow down adoption, even though who have the ball rolling, if Microsoft continues to roll out buggy updates. FYI, I recently talked to a guy from MSFT. Their position is that beyond Windows Insiders they can simply push out bug fixes as they crop up in the wild of "production". They are completely tone deaf to how their software is used and the critical role it plays, at least for now. Reminds me of the U.S. car manufacturers in the 70's with the first gas shortage. They said nobody would buy the Japanese cars because they were small and dangerous. They were very very wrong. Microsoft may think nobody will leave them, but remove the trust people have in your product and the risk of moving to Apple, Android(or Google's future OS) or even a Linux setup with a Corporate made user UI appears less risky. We are already seeing Linux displace Unix and Windows servers in the Financial Industry over the last several years.
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  7. Join Date : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
    Posts : 1,341
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       10 Oct 2016 #7

    StatCounter


    Comport Colin said: View Post
    NM's statistics are not very good. Some time ago, their numbers showed a rise of xp users by +40% (relatively) to the month before. Go figure. I don't know who is supervising these statistics, but maybe no one.
    I remember that.

    If I recall correctly, they decided to stop monitoring XP usage in China, so XP usage "dropped".
    That caused some a stink, so a couple of months, later they (quietly) started using that data again, so XP usage "increased".

    StatCounter shows W10 had basically zero growth in September.
    StatCounter shows an increase in W8.1 and OS X.
    Are the figures to be believed? Well, while it wouldn’t be the first time that NetMarketShare has released usage numbers and then revised them a few days later, rival usage share monitoring firm StatCounter has similar findings.

    While that company doesn’t have Windows 10 losing share, it does show it growing by just 0.08 percentage points for a total of 22.27 percent in September.
    BetaNews
    http://betanews.com/2016/10/01/wtf-w...-losing-share/

    StatCounter
    http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201509-201609
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 11 Oct 2016 at 06:34.
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  8.    11 Oct 2016 #8

    We have only one Windows 10 (production) machine, it hasn't been friendly. We use it as our main server, and we have had numerous issues, especially with shared printers. We never could get it to work, ended up running a 50' usb cable so we could run it as a local printer. Same program worked on Windows 7 & 8. Have heard other complaints, regarding printers.

    I think it may have something to do with the new smb 3.0 they initiated, can't be certain, didn't want to waste any more time, in trying to run down the culprit. Unfortunately this was a new machine which came with 10 installed, it would not have been my first choice.

    I believe Windows 10 numbers will probably not change much, some will switch back as they encounter issues, but others (like us) will make do because that is what the new machine had. We certainly don't want to spend any more monies on purchasing operating systems.
    Last edited by Trust_No1; 11 Oct 2016 at 04:55.
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  9. Join Date : May 2015
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    Windows7 Pro and Windows 10 Pro
       11 Oct 2016 #9

    To be fair to Windows 10, you can learn to work with/around it. You can turn off all the Universal App features, notifications etc. You can run Chrome in it just fine. You can shutdown Cortana and her spying for the most part, and you can limit much of the telemetry to Windows 7 levels by setting the feedback feature to basic and telling it never to ask you about Windows 10.

    That said, the fact that every update makes you go through that exercise again and again because you don't know what Microsoft is going in regards to resetting your privacy and feedback preferences is problematic. The fact that their quality assurance and testing procedures are non-existent is a problem. The fact that they claim the OS is safer, but then install buggy drivers that overwrite what the systems have running, add and remove support for certain features randomly, and overall still feel directionless leaves, at least me, wondering if their security is really as tight as they think it is. Which leads, at least me, to still run a third party security solution.

    Unless and until Microsoft gets its house in order it will continue to see its market share, now below 90% in the PC market, continue to slide. It may seem they have a long way to fall, but so did IE, so did other companies back in the day, like Novell and IBM.
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  10. Join Date : Nov 2015
    Posts : 21
    Windows 10 1511
       11 Oct 2016 #10

    "Unless and until Microsoft gets its house in order it will continue to see its market share, now below 90% in the PC market, continue to slide" - you mean rise, continue to rise. See https://www.netmarketshare.com/opera...=9&qpcustomb=0
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