Despite Windows 10, Third-Party Start Menus Will Live On

Indianatone said:

No I use it on virtual machines. Updating a couple of them at the moment. I don't think (my opinion yours is different) Windows 10 is ready to be installed on any of my machines. I am sure the free upgrade is a trap. Decided when they killed media center and still have not given Windows 10 a nice aero look I'll stick with my Windows 7 Ultimate as it is vastly superior.

Why is that? After all, you very recently said:

Piecing together the Windows as a Service puzzle for Windows 10

I have decided as Windows 10 has no value for me whatsoever I'll be sticking with Windows 7. Windows 10 is something that I plain don't need as it works in a way I don't want or need too.

So why are you doing the opposite of what you said?

I mean, you're perfectly free to do whatever you want, but why make such dramatic pronouncements, and then immediately do the exact opposite?

Mystere said:

I recall seeing recently that Classic Shell, one of the largest free start menu replacements only had 25 million downloads (I think this was in April). Since this number almost certainly includes multiple downloads (each new version is downloaded by the installed base), and there have been 57 releases... let's be generous and say that even if this accounts for 5 million users, that's still only 5% of the total Windows 8.x market. Now, you might argue that this is only one vendor... but the fact is, most users will try out multiple replacements to see which one they like, and it's likely that most users would try Classic Shell, even if they don't use it, so at least a large percentage of those users would be accounted for in other replacement products. So even if we are generous and double it to 10 million. That's only 10% of the users.

Yes, this is all speculation. But the fact of the matter is, most users are not technical... They don't know start menu replacements exist... If you deal with real end users on any regular basis you would know this.


Windows 8.x currently has 11.16% of the market of almost 900 Million PC's. Or, roughly 100 Million.

You have a source for this info or are you just guessing. I also disagree with your speculation.

Gary said:

You have a source for this info or are you just guessing. I also disagree with your speculation.

Which info?

Mystere said:

Which info?

Windows 8.x currently has 11.16% of the market of almost 900 Million PC's. Or, roughly 100 Million.

The above info

I found that figure through googling, but there are different figures depending on where you look. For instance, here:

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operat...10&qpcustomd=0

Claims Windows 8 and 8.x are about 14.5%. This claims 15% (and that was 8 months ago)

http://venturebeat.com/2014/11/01/wi...below-20-mark/

I think I found my figure through Gartner or a similar sales channel report, but regardless my figure was conservative compared to pretty much everyone else.

Windows 7 is at 57.xx% but that will drop soon. Thanks

Mystere said:

Why is that? After all, you very recently said:

Piecing together the Windows as a Service puzzle for Windows 10



So why are you doing the opposite of what you said?

I mean, you're perfectly free to do whatever you want, but why make such dramatic pronouncements, and then immediately do the exact opposite?

Indianatone is not. I actually understand what he means. He is basically just playing with windows 10 preview in a virtual machine. He is most likely not using for day to day activity.

groze said:

Indianatone is not. I actually understand what he means. He is basically just playing with windows 10 preview in a virtual machine. He is most likely not using for day to day activity.

Neither am I, nor should anyone else for that matter.

But if he's decided that Windows 10 isn't for him, there is no point in playing with it in a virtual machine or anything else. Now is there? Why would you keep playing with something you have proclaimed to the world you will never use?

Mystere said:

Neither am I, nor should anyone else for that matter.

But if he's decided that Windows 10 isn't for him, there is no point in playing with it in a virtual machine or anything else. Now is there? Why would you keep playing with something you have proclaimed to the world you will never use?

Why not ? I use it as my only OS everyday.

Why do you always pick apart everything someone else says ? They post something, you miss understand it and then turn it into some twisted senseless post of your own.