Windows 10: More free upgrade and activation questions answered

jshaw42 said:

Do I need to be online when I install the Anniversary update?

To activate, yes.

Lost track of what thread I was in, lol. You may also have to be online to upgrade, all depends on how your doing the upgrade. If you have created install media, you can upgrade offline. It won't activate but you can upgrade with no Internet connection. If your doing an upgrade now from the Media Creation Tool, you need to be online at least until it downloads the setup files and reboots for the first time.

The first option being the immediate online upgrade is what was being pointed to there IF it works?! For the Redstone 1 update now being seen it didn't here on multiple machines when tried.

The connection for download of the iso either immediately written to a large usb flash drive or saved as the "windows.iso" to a folder locally on a drive even flash drive or flash memory card will allow you to either see the media created later with some other app or even mount the iso depending on the type of install being planned. Booting live from removable media of course allows for both upgrade to update or full clean install.

One tip for an isolated install either upgrade or clean install is when having a driver update issue in first seeing the working driver set or other update downloaded and saved proceeding the update. When seeing the install take place you install the correct updates, drivers before connecting online again sometime later where you would then check for updates. That includes the cumulative update presently waiting for the end of the active hours set to restart the main pc here. :)

Extract:
"Even though Microsoft is now linking digital licenses to Microsoft Accounts, this new method is not meant to allow users to transfer digital licenses to new PCs."

This is a very interesting statement. If it is true, then how is one supposed to transfer windows 10 to new PC if original 7/8 licence was Standalone (aka Retail), as clearly allowed in EULA.

Throughout first year MS made it clear a new mobo counts as a new pc. How can they say the new tool is ok for a new mobo, but not a new pc? If A=B, then B=A!

You can't help thinking MS spokepersons are making things up as they go along as they do not know themselves.

cereberus said:

Extract:
"Even though Microsoft is now linking digital licenses to Microsoft Accounts, this new method is not meant to allow users to transfer digital licenses to new PCs."

This is a very interesting statement. If it is true, then how is one supposed to transfer windows 10 to new PC if original 7/8 licence was Standalone (aka Retail), as clearly allowed in EULA.

Throughout first year MS made it clear a new mobo counts as a new pc. How can they say the new tool is ok for a new mobo, but not a new pc? If A=B, then B=A!

You can't help thinking MS spokepersons are making things up as they go along as they do not know themselves.

I read that to mean "this is not why we did this". The linking wasn't done with you using it to transfer the license from PC to PC in mind. You might be able to do it, but that's not why they added this function.
It's done so you can recover activation if it fails for what ever reason. You swapped a bunch of components all at once, etc.
It's always been my opinion, that if you accept the terms of the free upgrade, you accept the fact that it is licensed to that "device" until end of life. When the device dies, the license dies with it.
It is my personal opinion that the free upgrade is non transferable, period.
Please, please don't start another debate on this. I'm just giving my opinion, the way I read it. This has been debated in the past so no need to sidetrack this thread with another one.
Microsoft IMHO, has always been very lenient in that regard and allowed transfers that likely shouldn't have been allowed. There are always exceptions to the rule.

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alphanumeric said:

I read that to mean "this is not why we did this". The linking wasn't done with you using it to transfer the license from PC to PC in mind. You might be able to do it, but that's not why they added this function.
It's done so you can recover activation if it fails for what ever reason. You swapped a bunch of components all at once, etc.
It's always been my opinion, that if you accept the terms of the free upgrade, you accept the fact that it is licensed to that "device" until end of life. When the device dies, the license dies with it.
It is my personal opinion that the free upgrade is non transferable, period.
Please, please don't start another debate on this. I'm just giving my opinion, the way I read it. This has been debated in the past so no need to sidetrack this thread with another one.
Microsoft IMHO, has always been very lenient in that regard and allowed transfers that likely shouldn't have been allowed. There are always exceptions to the rule.

I agree with you - the only point then is that officially MS still have no mechanism then to comply with their own EULA.

I am inclined to think MS will conveniently do a Nelson job (turn a blind eye for non Brits) and allow the tool to be used anyway as the real impact is minimal.

We already know the new system has limits so is not a means for wholesale piracy which they are concerned with of course.