Free Upgrade to Windows 10 Mobile Will Continue Past July 29

Good counter argument. When you put it like that I guess I agree. On a personal level I do still prefer the old days of dedicated desktop OS and phones being separate and I just think Windows, for what I want it to be, has suffered - I sure find the whole 'store' and apps stuff (mainly the native ones) buggy - maybe if it wasn't so immature an OS and buggy I would be more receptive to it. But overal am just not keen on the hybrid OS we have and much preferred Windows 7. But it's happening whether we like it or not although I can see businesses clinging to Windows 7 for years to come. Unfortunately the over reliance on cloud connectivity is another frustration. MS and Apple assume everyone is connected 24/7. Even in London there are grey areas of cellular coverage where my phone (albeit iOS) becomes next to useless - and of course we become heavily reliant on said servers working all the time.

i guess I'm old school, I don't like cloud storage, rather use local storage whether it be my internal HD or my NAS drives and rather have my phone and computer as very separate entities. Some people embrace change but there are a great many, I think, that don't and I believe apple and MS push change for the sake of change too much. It's not going to happen but if MS focuses purely on desktop OS it would be better but as you rightly point out they can't afford to.

I'm very happy with my Lumia 640XL running Windows 10. I hope Widows 10 mobile continues and more phones become available. IMHO it's a shame MS didn't get into the phone market earlier. :)

alphanumeric said:

Isn't it up to the service provider (who sold you the phone and package), whether a phone gets updated or not? I don't own a dumb phone, let alone a smart phone, so I'm a noob where that is concerned.

That's the procedure with Verizon. Just got mine the other day and the only major problem was it lost 95% of my contacts. Thanks to Verizon's Cloud service (5GB Free) and it had all my contacts and with a quick sync they are all back. Verizon Cloud replaced Backup Assistant Plus and has the Verizon Cloud app in the Windows store.

Now we will see when they release Redstone and how long it takes to get upgraded.


Jim

Claims of the demise of the desktop are premature.

My desktop has dual 27" screens, and I'd prefer more/bigger.

I can tolerate a mere 14" laptop when traveling, but I could never put up with losing keyboard and mouse. That's what a cell phone forces upon me.

A cell phone is simply not a proper computer. No keyboard, no mouse, and almost no screen make it little more than a computer "serving suggestion".

Next generation visualization (Magic Leap et al) may eventually solve the output problem. But what about the input problem?

Until mobile becomes functional, real computing will remain on the desk or lap.

Windows 11 free upgrade won't end July 29. It will end when MS announces Windows 12. :)

margrave55 said:

Claims of the demise of the desktop are premature.

My desktop has dual 27" screens, and I'd prefer more/bigger.

I can tolerate a mere 14" laptop when traveling, but I could never put up with losing keyboard and mouse. That's what a cell phone forces upon me.

A cell phone is simply not a proper computer. No keyboard, no mouse, and almost no screen make it little more than a computer "serving suggestion".

Next generation visualization (Magic Leap et al) may eventually solve the output problem. But what about the input problem?

Until mobile becomes functional, real computing will remain on the desk or lap.

IMHO both serve a purpose and I don't see either one replacing the other. :)