How MSFT's tricky new Windows 10 pop-up deceives you into upgrading

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  1. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #80

    groze said:
    @alphanumeric


    So, if you click the x thinking you are cancelling the upgrade, does it still show the EULA when it starts to install? If not, that could be an issue with U.S. state's contract laws and possible the FTC. Contract laws very by state. I am not an attorney this is just my opinion.
    I haven't gotten the GWX popup this thread is talking about yet. All the screens I got so far are from an OOBE update/change. It was something unexpected and on topic so I posted it. My original intent was to see the GWX App first hand for myself. I'm just waiting for that screen to pop up. I'll post back when it does.
    For the Windows update screen I posted, clicking the red X just closes the Window. Nothing happened when I did that. Opening Windows update again after that just opened back to where it was when I closed it. If I did nothing and waited long enough, windows update started installing the 8.1 updates all on its own. It did its normal thing. The upgrade to Windows 10 message went away and the progress showed.
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  2. Posts : 5,452
    windows 10 Pro ver 21H2 build 19044.1348
    Thread Starter
       #81

    Have you folks done any googling this past 2 days ?
    There are pages and pages of this alleged Microsoft "trick".
    I feel sorry for the Win 7 and 8 users.
    Last edited by davidhk; 26 May 2016 at 11:38.
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  3. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #82

    davidhk said:
    Have you folks done any googling this past 2 days ?
    There are pages and pages of this alleged Microsoft "trick".
    I feel sorry for the Win 7 and 8 users.
    This OOBE patch that I was presented with is even worse IMHO. I didn't even get to log in for the first time before the prompts to upgrade started. There are quit a few MVP's, like me, up in arms about it. It seems to be falling on deaf ears though.
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  4. Posts : 62
    Windows 10 Home, build 10586.218
       #83

    I don't get it? What's the problem here?

    Just below the date it says: "Click here to change upgrade schedule or cancel scheduled upgrade". I'm referring to screenshot Cluster Head posted & zooburner quoted on 4th page.

    Computer was clearly set to update on May 16th, so if you click on X, you took NO action to change that. Nothing, you just closed the window. It's not enabling update, update has already been scheduled somehow (that part is interesting, but I'm pretty sure user already clicked something before that). I was on Windows 7 for a while and I never had any issues with MS forcing update on me..

    It just looks like people are out for blood without even realizing there are options... same with alpha doing all that testing - first thing I saw on those screenshots was DECLINE option. Come on...
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  5. Posts : 1,557
    W10 32 bit, XUbuntu 18.xx 64 bit
       #84

    Clam said:
    I don't get it? What's the problem here?

    Just below the date it says: "Click here to change upgrade schedule or cancel scheduled upgrade". I'm referring to screenshot Cluster Head posted & zooburner quoted on 4th page.

    Computer was clearly set to update on May 16th, so if you click on X, you took NO action to change that. Nothing, you just closed the window. It's not enabling update, update has already been scheduled somehow (that part is interesting, but I'm pretty sure user already clicked something before that). I was on Windows 7 for a while and I never had any issues with MS forcing update on me..

    That because previously you had to click the "X" to cancel the upgrade and there was not a link to "Click here to change upgrade schedule or cancel scheduled upgrade"
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  6. Posts : 22,740
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #85

    groze said:
    That because previously you had to click the "X" to cancel the upgrade and there was not a link to "Click here to change upgrade schedule or cancel scheduled upgrade"
    That's not a big enough difference to get all worked up about, IMO. It's really the same thing just a different action/location to press a button/link to get the same result., MS is allowed to change how the popup looks I think.
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  7. Posts : 50
    Windows 10
       #86

    Reading all that stuff is so hard...

    This is much ado about nothing.

    Meh :\
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  8. Posts : 7,128
    Windows 10 Pro Insider
       #87

    Clam said:
    I don't get it? What's the problem here?

    Just below the date it says: "Click here to change upgrade schedule or cancel scheduled upgrade". I'm referring to screenshot Cluster Head posted & zooburner quoted on 4th page.

    Computer was clearly set to update on May 16th, so if you click on X, you took NO action to change that. Nothing, you just closed the window. It's not enabling update, update has already been scheduled somehow (that part is interesting, but I'm pretty sure user already clicked something before that). I was on Windows 7 for a while and I never had any issues with MS forcing update on me..

    It just looks like people are out for blood without even realizing there are options... same with alpha doing all that testing - first thing I saw on those screenshots was DECLINE option. Come on...
    The problem is that you shouldn't have to click on anything to cancel the upgrade. You should only have to click on a link if you want to upgrade. In the screenshot your talking about what happens if you didn't see that box or you was to busy and didn't read it? You wind up with a upgrade you didn't ask for or want. Time for the free upgrade is coming to a end soon and MS is trying their best to trick the people who don't want to upgrade to upgrade anyhow.
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  9. Posts : 1,937
    win 10 Insider
       #88

    Agree, Winuser. I have just been rung by a person I know saying his computer is upgrading. He has been away for four weeks so had little control over this. Now I just hope the accounting software, gate security, till link still works.

    It should be opt in NOT opt out.
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  10. Posts : 1,811
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 19.2 MATE (64 bit), W10 Home 1703 (64 bit), W10 Pro 1703 (64 bit) VM
       #89

    linw said:
    It should be opt in NOT opt out.
    We seen this before with the "MS Account vs Local Account" debacle.

    MS "hides" any options they don't want you to use using tiny links.
    Whereas the options they want you to use, all have giant buttons.

    What's next?
    Hide all of the undesirable options (to MS) in the EULA dialog (because they know nobody reads it)?
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