Clarified:the free upgrade offer to Win 10 is ending July 29th, really

Adalwar said:

Clean Install means that I have to install all Software again. Alone MS Filght Simulator with World Maps are 8 full DVD! It is taking a very long Time to install, so far I recall several hours.
Yes, the only possibilty is to recover from System Image, but as I said I spent last 12 days trying to fix a unknown problem and I am full of it.
Win 8.1 was taking 5 Minutes (300 Seconds) to load, now it takes 19 seconds, from Power Pressing until the full Desktop is fully loaded.
That is a huge difference. I will not break it.
Anyway Win 10 is not for me, I need the "Old Calculator" from windows and several things else.
I am sorry.

Here ya go.. Old Windows 7 Calculator for Windows 10

TairikuOkami said:

Some people actually do not like free, for them free = low quality, so MS has to catch up with those guys as well.


Not yet. But Windows will eventually be sold as Windows not as Windows 10, just plain Windows, so it is just a matter of time.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke.../#5756f000dfab

I don't agree with you as I believe it will be WIndows 10 and/or WIndows 365 which MS has applied for a copyright to the name.

Justin Case said:

I think the problem becomes one of program-to-app conversions that are taking place up in Redmond. Right now, many programs (and hardware drivers) are delivered as a program (unsigned). When something becomes an "app" it becomes signed and may likely follow the same path that Apple's apps take: they're provisioned for a single device ID.

I just noticed that a popular printer driver for the Toshiba eStudio printer now indicates in Settings -> Printers that there's an app version of this now available. So in theory, you'd have to download that from the Windows Store in order to receive it. This really isn't the way I.T. now delivers updates to workstations in a business. We roll out updates to printer drivers, we don't expect them to arrive via a store methodology. What happens in the future if printer drivers come with a fee attached?

You might plug in your new digital camera or a USB san disk only to find that Microsoft wants to charge you $0.99 for the driver related to it. It's not as far-fetched as it seems. Until Microsoft officially states what the future looks like, there are really no guarantees. (Apple themselves somewhere along the line decided to charge for a codec in QuickTime that they formerly included for free. And they pulled SoundStudio out of OS X as well.)

How could MS refuse to give you a driver for an Epson printer which would not allow an Epson printer to work. MS already got in trouble by forcing OEM's to pay for Windows even if they installed another OS on the machine. If the driver isn't available through MS then it will be available through the printer maker.

Justin Case said:

I think the problem becomes one of program-to-app conversions that are taking place up in Redmond. Right now, many programs (and hardware drivers) are delivered as a program (unsigned). When something becomes an "app" it becomes signed and may likely follow the same path that Apple's apps take: they're provisioned for a single device ID.

I just noticed that a popular printer driver for the Toshiba eStudio printer now indicates in Settings -> Printers that there's an app version of this now available. So in theory, you'd have to download that from the Windows Store in order to receive it. This really isn't the way I.T. now delivers updates to workstations in a business. We roll out updates to printer drivers, we don't expect them to arrive via a store methodology. What happens in the future if printer drivers come with a fee attached?

You might plug in your new digital camera or a USB san disk only to find that Microsoft wants to charge you $0.99 for the driver related to it. It's not as far-fetched as it seems. Until Microsoft officially states what the future looks like, there are really no guarantees. (Apple themselves somewhere along the line decided to charge for a codec in QuickTime that they formerly included for free. And they pulled SoundStudio out of OS X as well.)

An HP AiO Printer Remote App installs with my HP all in one drivers automatically, first time I turn it on. All done via Windows update in the background. I don't have to go to the Store to install it. I can use the All In One without it too. Its nice to have but not needed for full functionality.