A Third-Party Start Menu in Windows 10: Why It Doesn't Make Sense...
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Haven't used the Start Menu since Win 2000. Didn't miss it in Win 8. Probably won't use it in Win 10 and definitely don't need a 3rd party app.
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Oh yes, I looked at and even tried to work with the new Start Menu in W-10 and found it seriously wanting.
Like, "How do you shut this thing down?". If there is a Shutdown button, I didn't find it, ...TechnoMage
I guess you didn't look very hard since the Shutdown/Restart button is at the very top of the Start Menu in Win 10!
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Actually, it DOES make sense to have third-party apps because they offer a "choice" other than the default one provided by MS.
So, OK, you like the MS default -- but not everyone else does. Some of us want other choices.
If Start10 and ClassicShell do not "make sense" (because MS already provides their own start menu), then neither do the alternative Browsers -- such as FireFox, WaterFox, Chrome, Chromium, Opera -- to name a few.
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Actually, it DOES make sense to have third-party apps because they offer a "choice" other than the default one provided by MS.
So, OK, you like the MS default -- but not everyone else does. Some of us want other choices.
If Start10 and ClassicShell do not "make sense" (because MS already provides their own start menu), then neither do the alternative Browsers -- such as FireFox, WaterFox, Chrome, Chromium, Opera -- to name a few.
I agree. On at least unembedded device Microsoft will have to allow third party application in U.S. Canada and Europe or face another round of possible government lawsuit and maybe some private ones. Unless they are trying to use windows as a service to get around that-that just an opinion I could be wrong.
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Since the introduction of Quick Launch with Win98 I've had
pratically no use for any incarnation of a Start Menu.
I appreciate and DO use the right click feature in Win 10,
but here I am, 17 years down the road and Quick Launch is
still my "go to" Start Menu.
Single click to open programs? Check
Single click to open files? Check
Single click to open esoterica? Check
What more do I need?
Yer old stick in the mud
Windunce
Last edited by windunce; 02 Mar 2015 at 18:47.
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Having a third party Start menu is just stilly considering how Windows 10 simply isn't complete. The Spartan browser isn't even in the current builds, the Start Screen doesn't function perfectly, yet let's make a Start menu utility because obviously nothing is going to be improved from Preview to RTM!
Really?
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I used Classic Shell on Win 8, but when 8.1 was released I instead decided to persevere using All Apps as my start menu. This worked well. I liked it, and got used to it.
But within a couple of days on Win 10, I had Classic Shell installed. Don't like the new Start menu at ALL, and can't set it to go to All Apps when I click Start, which is my preferred option.
Wenda.
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Winkey+X is easier than right clicking the logo every time to access the other menus
But a simple text list shouldn't be all that difficult to obtain or getting rid of all of the alphabet listings either that alone has made a mockery of the start menu,
The shear width of the entire start menu is really stupid it is the start page.
Either one start10 or classic shell is a better option.
Too bad Microsoft left it to a third party to do some thing seemingly simple.
You can always access the inappropriate "New" start page by using the right side winkey in either 
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There was a day when I lived to make changes to the GUI on all Windows OSs. Now it really doesn't do anything for me, albeit I still believe that third party software is needed even if some folks cannot fine a use for it. Some people are just resistance to change while others live for it, hence the need for good third part GUI software. If you are one who doesn't like to change your GUI then just remember "Others are not like you.". . .:)
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Based on the W8 experience
Having a third party Start menu is just stilly considering how Windows 10 simply isn't complete. The Spartan browser isn't even in the current builds, the Start Screen doesn't function perfectly, yet let's make a Start menu utility because obviously nothing is going to be improved from Preview to RTM!
There were basically no Start Screen improvements in W8 (DP through to RTM)
Some improvements were made in W8.1 though.
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yet let's make a Start menu utility because obviously nothing is going to be improved from Preview to RTM!
I would have agreed if MS had left the Start Menu alone, but when they changed it (not "improved" it) to make it Metro, I didn't like the change and used the hack posted to return to the previous Start Menu style.
That said, the folks distributing start menu alternatives are basically following up on what they did for Win8.
What really "makes no sense" in my view is the stubborn position taken by MS. They already have the code for Start Menus because they deployed them in Win7. But instead of offering us a choice of menu styles (which Stardock does with Start8 and Start10), they insist on continuing to force their "Metro" on us all. As long as they continue to deny their customers choices, third-party providers will be more than willing to fill the gaps.
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