As 2015 comes to a close, Windows 10 surpasses 200 million installs

lx07 said:

You are right about that. I swapped my TV/internet to a fibre deal last month and am very paranoid I'll accidentally subscribe to some extra channels by pressing the wrong button....

If it's anything like here in the US, keep an eye on the TV part. I changed providers and got stuck with a two year deal, and as well, they kept sneaking in subscription stuff I didn't order. Thankfully the two years ended and that provider has been cancelled.

Wynona said:

Poor Jody; he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. If I recall correctly, Jody has tried to use Windows 10 before, but I don't remember all the results.

@Jody Thornton I believe you were in the Insider Program at one time; if you left it, you should at least rejoin and try each new update as it comes out so no one can say you don't know what you're talking about.

How can he be darned for not critiquing 10? This is my take. I use several versions of Linux for around 2 months total, which is what I did. Then I go into a support forum and complain/critique an OS that I barely used and haven't in some time. I would have no point of reference to any updates and little experience in using it in the first place. My expectations from the members would be they would either laugh me out or just ban me. Lots of the Linux forums are not a friendly as this one and the ones that John owns.

It's really ok to critique an OS like 10 but when someone has made their point well and clean why beat that point home. I think we got the message already.

Just my usual 2c..
Jeff

whs said:

Bunny, that is a good point.

Thanks.. there are several members here who critique an OS that they don't currently use or want to and it gets a bit frustrating to see comments that are from non users. Heck,, no one is forcing anyone to use this OS. And if anyone finds that the OS is being forced as in the update process many members will gladly help to make sure that will not occur. And there are several good tutorials by Shan on that subject.

I enjoy using 10... it's a nice tool so I can run my software and apps. Why do I use it?? Not because I love it.. it's because it's the OS that will receive the most support now and in the future. That's why..
Again.. my 2c

Jeff

Oh boy - here we go with multi-quote!

Jody Thornton said:

... If Microsoft wasn't hoping to trip people up into installing Windows 10 "by accident", why would they then not respect your choice when you previously blocked the update, to not show it again. For those that turn down the update notice, it reappears. And when you hide the telemetry updates that are offered to Windows 7 and 8.1 users, they reappear. Those that are saying "No one forces you to install the updates" would have more of an argument if the updates weren't forced upon you repeatedly.

I have to agree with this. And, I have in fact, had 2 people whose machines were overtaken by the update with no option to refuse. Not sure how it got to that point, but it really shouldn't, period.

Jody Thornton said:

By the way, saying "No one is forcing you to click and update" seems somewhat akin to when people argue that giving up privacy shouldn't bother you if you're not doing anything wrong. They're weak arguments and people's choices should be respected. Perhaps Microsoft isn't forcing you to update, but they are not respecting your update choices that you've previously made, by repeatedly showing updates you've blocked.

Again, I have to agree. Once you tell MS you are not interested in upgrading, they should leave you alone. I have 3 systems on W10 (one in TP), 3 systems on W8.1, and right now I prefer to leave the 8.1s where they are. But MS are not respecting my choice. Matter of fact, I wanted to leave one of the 8s at 8.0, but MS thought they knew better than I.

alphanumeric said:

You should not have to jump through hoops and go to extraordinary measures to stop the upgrade.... You can't easily turn off updates in Windows 10, and you shouldn't have to stop all updates just because of one you don't want. What happened to the user friendly part of Windows? Upgrading is fairly easy, but it seems not upgrading is becoming increasingly difficult.

Agreed. And MS will become even more aggressive in 2016 with upgrades, changing the WU from recommended to important/standard. So those that have auto-updates on will get it even if they don't want it.

Jody Thornton said:

I don't find it that hard myself (frustrating yes, but not hard).... if I want to stay on a past OS that's still receiving updates, I should be able to do so without being nagged.

Agreed. And for the average, non-technical user, it shouldn't be this difficult.

lx07 said:

I've never heard such rubbish.. If you don't like Windows 10 don't install it. If you don't know how to install it (or you don't know how to not install it) then live with whatever life throws at you. You can always get the internet on your phone or TV.....I agree with most of what you say Jody, but not this. Whether 10 is better or not, if a user is incapable of deciding how to answer the question "do you want to upgrade" then they should be upgraded.

It's not that a user is incapable of deciding how to answer the question, it's that the question keeps asking itself over and over and over, as if the answer makes no difference, and then sometimes, there is no answer to give, you just get the upgrade whether you wanted it or not.

Wynona said:

If it's anything like here in the US, keep an eye on the TV part. I changed providers and got stuck with a two year deal, and as well, they kept sneaking in subscription stuff I didn't order. Thankfully the two years ended and that provider has been cancelled.

Don't you just hate when that happens?!

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How do those W10 update pictures apply in the case of W7 (and probably W8 series) users being "tricked" into installing W10?

davidhk said:

Who cares if there were 200 million Win 10 users ?

MS does.

The W8 series has been a disaster by MS' own standards.
It never even came close to obtaining the market share that Vista attained at its peak.

W10 is on track to overtake the W8 series (probably in the first quarter of 2016).