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  1.    02 Nov 2014 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    What get me is why people use Google Chrome, if you are logged in to google and/or have apps link to your account they know who you are and where you go unless you go to https sites. It is possible to disable all this to prevent tracking but it is a pain. I use Seamonkey for example.
    NB: This is my opinion!

    I am 63 years old, and I couldn't give whoot if Google is spying on me or not. I have been using Chrome for so long, I couldn't tell you when I made the change, but I know I was using some iteration of Netscape if that helps. I keep running into posts where the user posts like he is some type of CIA agent, and has secrets that must be protected at all costs!! Please, Google does not want, nor need whatever you have on your drives. Now the NSA is another story, best saved for another day!!

    That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!
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  2.    02 Nov 2014 #22
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    Windows 7, 8.1, 10 | Linux

    Great News
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  3.    02 Nov 2014 #23
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    Thank you for calling me a Geek Kari, but I am not that smart. You might be right. I have the latest standard release version in Windows 10 and Windows 7. However, chrome still list in the credits that it uses webkit. Then the developers need to get on that to remove webkit and replace it with blink if you are correct. I call that a bug. There might be others in the credits that no longer in use, that also needs to be removed. Sorry for the long post.

    Here is a list of credits from Google Chrome install.

    David M. Gay's floating point routines
    dynamic annotations
    Netscape Portable Runtime (NSPR)
    Paul Hsieh's SuperFastHash
    google-glog's symbolization library
    Breakpad, An open-source multi-platform crash reporting system
    XZ Utils
    Google code support upload script
    Mozilla Personal Security Manager
    Network Security Services (NSS)
    native client
    Accessibility Audit library, from Accessibility Developer Tools
    Android Crazy Linker
    Almost Native Graphics Layer Engine
    Apple sample code
    Binary-, RedBlack- and AVL-Trees in Python and Cython
    Google Cache Invalidation API
    Checkstyle is a development tool to help programmers write Java code that
    Compact Language Detection
    Compact Language Detection 2
    Closure compiler
    Expat XML Parser
    Flot Javascript/JQuery library for creating graphs
    Google Toolbox for Mac
    GIMP Toolkit
    hunspell dictionaries
    Hardware Composer Plus
    IAccessible2 COM interfaces for accessibility
    ISimpleDOM COM interfaces for accessibility
    Khronos header files
    LCOV - the LTP GCOV extension
    LevelDB: A Fast Persistent Key-Value Store
    NVidia Control X Extension Library
    The library to input, validate, and display addresses.
    Braille Translation Library
    International Phone Number Library
    WebM container parser and writer.
    WebP image encoder/decoder
    markdown, a text-to-HTML conversion tool for web writers
    modp base64 decoder
    NSBezierPath additions from Sean Patrick O'Brien
    Mozc Japanese Input Method Editor
    Cocoa extension code from Camino
    Netscape Plugin Application Programming Interface (NPAPI)
    OpenMAX DL
    OTS (OpenType Sanitizer)
    PLY (Python Lex-Yacc)
    Protocol Buffers
    Python FTP server library
    Quick Color Management System
    re2 - an efficient, principled regular expression library
    Snappy: A fast compressor/decompressor
    Speech Dispatcher
    Sudden Motion Sensor library
    SwiftShader software renderer.
    Simplified Wrapper and Interface Generator (SWIG)
    The USB ID Repository
    SHA1 for Windows toolchain that is built from external sources.
    The Windows Installer XML (WiX)
    WebRTC sample code
    V8 JavaScript Engine
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  4.    02 Nov 2014 #24
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    Outdated credits do not change facts.
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  5.    02 Nov 2014 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Outdated credits do not change facts.
    That exactly my point, there shouldn't be outdated credits period.
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  6.    02 Nov 2014 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    What has WebKit to do with this? Chrome used WebKit rendering engine until version 27, starting with version 28 it has used Blink.
    Blink is a fork of WebKit, which removes features they weren't using. It's still going to render a lot closer to current Safari than Safari 5.1.7 for Windows does.

    My guess is that most changes that are not deprecating WebKit features that Chrome didn't use are probably back ported to WebKit anyways, so they are likely still very close in terms of general rendering functionality.
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  7.    02 Nov 2014 #27
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    Google Forks WebKit And Launches Blink, A New Rendering Engine That Will Soon Power Chrome

    This should explain it. Article is a little old though.

    Because Blink is a fork, they still have to give credit to webkit according to gpl.
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  8.    03 Nov 2014 #28

    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    What get me is why people use Google Chrome, if you are logged in to google and/or have apps link to your account they know who you are and where you go unless you go to https sites. It is possible to disable all this to prevent tracking but it is a pain. I use Seamonkey for example.
    I use Chrome almost exclusively, and yes they can track you, as all browsers do. There are add-ons that can block and VPNs can obscure it also, so that you can not be tracked.

    But, I use Chrome because I use a number of the available apps, plus, and (silly me) I also like to be able to theme my browser. I even designed my own. So, I have no problems, with it.

    I use Firefox, to do things Chrome doesn't offer.

    And lastly, I use IE to usually do my online installs. Though Chrome has improved this function.
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  9.    03 Nov 2014 #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post

    Well, as the saying goes.. there's Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics. But some are more self selecting than others. Some of these reports make an effort to create a non-biased pool of sites to gain data from, other just take whoever wants to join their list.. and those sites tend to be very tech heavy, which favors more non-IE results.

    Let's take, for instance:

    Quote Originally Posted by Trust_No1 View Post
    This one shows Safari with 15.2%. Wow. Safari is only available for MacOS if it's only counting desktop browsers (which it seems to be), and MacOS only accounts for about 7% of the market share. How, exactly does MacOS then have more than 2x the browser share than they have computers?

    If the numbers include mobile, then that would include iOS and MacOS, but then those numbers would also include Android. And MacOS + iOS is far less than than 15% of the installed base of Android alone, much less Android + everything else that might be running Chrome (or some version of it). So those numbers, just based on the Safari stats are highly suspect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trust_No1 View Post
    Or, let us look at this
    Browser Statistics
    First.. w3schools? Seriously? Apart from the fact that they're the worst joke on the internet... ( see W3Fools ? Better web education for all ), w3schools is again very tech heavy... mostly visited by web developers which are going to be very chrome and firefox heavy. The bias is well known. In fact, look at the huge difference between safari usage in the two sites.. 15.2 vs 3.6, and chrome is almost 60% vs 40%.

    Now, Statcounter is a completely apples to oranges comparison. Statcounters stats are based on page views, not on market share. In other words, they base their stats on which browsers view the most pages and do not remove duplicate ip's or try to find unique visitors.

    In theory, users of chrome should view just as many pages as users of IE, but in practice we really don't know if that's the case.. since chrome users tend to be more technical, they may spend much more time surfing... or they may just visit a lot more pages than other people on a daily basis.. it's hard to tell. Their justification is that they count which browsers are the most USED, not the ones that have the most market share, and they also count users who use more than one browser.

    Regardless, I've seen the browser statistics for a lot of sites, some of them quite large (Millions of dollars in revenue per day), and I've never once seen one in which chrome or any other browser came even close to surpassing IE in usage on any site I've monitored. So, simply put.. My own personal experience agrees with the net applications data, and not with the others. NetMarketShare data is also similar... Market share for mobile, browsers, operating systems and search engines | NetMarketShare
    We thank you for the analysis, which only brings us back to my original statement all depends on the spin-reporters
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  10.    03 Nov 2014 #30
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    Personally I would be amazed if IE was not the most popular/used. It's a built in to Windows and I would think most users would not take the time to install a third party browser. Folks here would but not the general Windows user.

    Just my 2c..
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