Next big Windows 10 release will ease activation hassles

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  1. Samsung User
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    BillyBob said:
    If you're on RTM and its fully activated you shouldn't have to put in a key to do a reinstall, the servers should activate you, but things can go wrong, so I'd do a backup before doing anything and make sure the backup works.

    If something goes wrong and you haven't got a key you're pretty much screwed without a backup.
    Thank you I did a backup when I upgraded from 8.1
    So will make sure I back up again all I wanted to know was about the key but thank you again for reminding me
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  3. Superfly
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    shipinomore10 said:
    Superfly I used that great tool of yours for getkey before and after I upgraded to windows 10 pro on three of my machines I have all the keys printed out and noted.
    I guess I have all the valid keys that I should ever need to do any type of install clean or upgrade.
    Am I right in my thinking?
    shipinomore
    Yep... all retail, Win 7 COA , OEM:NONSLP as well as OEMM keys should be fine - my concern is that Win 7 OEM:SLP keys are generic and won't work on a clean installs without prior digital entitlement - gonna do some testing tonite and check various scenarios. Good on you for backing up your keys though.
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  4. BillyBob
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    hTconeM9user said:
    Thank you I did a backup when I upgraded from 8.1
    So will make sure I back up again all I wanted to know was about the key but thank you again for reminding me
    If you've got 8.1 backed up, you can always go back to that and get your key with Belarc.
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  5. Samsung User
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    Windows 11 Home (x64) Version 21H1 (build 19043.1202)
       New #23

    BillyBob said:
    If you've got 8.1 backed up, you can always go back to that and get your key with Belarc.
    I know but don't ever want to go back love windows 10, don't know why some members don't like it,
    Easiest windows out so far and I have used them all from 95 upwards
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  7. Trust_No1
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       New #24

    BillyBob said:
    If you've got 8.1 backed up, you can always go back to that and get your key with Belarc.
    Have you ever used a Belarc key that worked for re-installs, they never worked for me.

    hTconeM9user said:
    I know but don't ever want to go back love windows 10, don't know why some members don't like it,
    Easiest windows out so far and I have used them all from 95 upwards
    I don't care for it because they have removed so many things from previous builds that our household uses. Why give up better versions for 10? The only legitimate answer I can think of, is if you had a pirated version. It is to limiting in my opinion.
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  8. groze
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    W10 32 bit, XUbuntu 18.xx 64 bit
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       New #25

    Boozad said:
    Then you would no longer be an Insider.
    Boozad,

    That would also actually apply to the retail version of 7 & 8.1 as well wouldn't it?

    From reading the article. You do a clean install of the current insider build, once you installed 10. You change your 10 key to windows 7 or 8.1 key and hopefully activates. The question is do you remain an insider or are you no longer an insider? Zdnet is just theorizing how you do the key. When it is released to the public, we should get more details on how that works.

    Windows 7 Oemslp keys, you would need to use the OEM key listed on the back or bottom of your computer.
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  9. Boozad
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    W7 Pro x64 | W10 IP x64 | Linux Mint VM
       New #26

    windoz said:
    Not to be a Richard Head, but did you read the whole thread, as well as the "More" link in the original post and the link in post #4? It seems to be all about "Clean" installations and likely getting 10 Pro by already having 7 or 8 Pro, as well as a few other probable/possible benefits. I know that I would sure be torqued to end up with a "FREE" home version of 10 in return for having given up a "PROFESSIONAL" vrsion of 7 or 8 that I had paid for!
    Just Sayin'
    Gene
    And how exactly are Insders going to test that? Which is the point I quoted and had absolutely nothing to do with what you posted.
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  10. shipinomore10
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       New #27

    Next big Windows 10 release will ease activation hassles


    Boozad I have two machines that have Windows 10 pro. I have also created images of each as a failsafe when they had 8.1 pro on them. I also still have the created software when I purchased them. I have done first off the update to windows 10 and it did give me the Pro Version. those are also backed up as image files.
    I have done factory installs from media and no problems I have restored images with no problems. i purchase 8.0 Pro when way back I signed up for testing and got a copy for 39 dollars. this works well doing updates and clean installs.
    I feel that I have done just about everything one can do and it all works fine. I am a insider and I have opted out and then back in and if I would have followed Brinks tutorial then I would have had no probems.
    I am not worried at this point.
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  11. Superfly
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       New #28

    There is a special file called pkeyconfig-downlevel that has been added to the lastest build.
    As noted above OEM:SLP keys are excluded.

    Below are all the editions that qualify for direct upgrade:

    Code:
    Win 8.1 RTM Core OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM CoreN OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM CoreCountrySpecific OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM Professional OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalN OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM Core OEM:NONSLP
Win 8.1 RTM CoreN OEM:NONSLP
Win 8.1 RTM CoreCountrySpecific OEM:NONSLP
Win 8.1 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:NONSLP
Win 8.1 RTM Professional OEM:NONSLP
Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalN OEM:NONSLP
Win 8.1 RTM Core Retail
Win 8.1 RTM CoreN Retail
Win 8.1 RTM Professional Retail
Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalN Retail
Win 8.1 RTM Core OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalWMC Retail
Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnected OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnected OEM:NONSLP
Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnected Retail
Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedN OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedN OEM:NONSLP
Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedN Retail
Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudent OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudent OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudent OEM:NONSLP
Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudent Retail
Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudentN OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudentN OEM:NONSLP
Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudentN Retail
Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedSingleLanguage OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedSingleLanguage OEM:NONSLP
Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedCountrySpecific OEM:DM
Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedCountrySpecific OEM:NONSLP
Win 8.1 RTM Professional;ProfessionalN Volume:MAK
Win 8 RTM CoreN Retail
Win 8 RTM Core Retail
Win 8 RTM ProfessionalN Retail
Win 8 RTM ProfessionalN Retail
Win 8 RTM Professional Retail
Win 8 RTM ProfessionalWMC Retail
Win 8 RTM CoreN OEM:DM
Win 8 RTM CoreN OEM:NONSLP
Win 8 RTM CoreCountrySpecific OEM:DM
Win 8 RTM CoreCountrySpecific OEM:NONSLP
Win 8 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:DM
Win 8 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:NONSLP
Win 8 RTM Core OEM:DM
Win 8 RTM Core OEM:NONSLP
Win 8 RTM ProfessionalN OEM:DM
Win 8 RTM ProfessionalN OEM:NONSLP
Win 8 RTM Professional OEM:DM
Win 8 RTM Professional OEM:NONSLP
Win 8 RTM Core OEM:DM
Win 8 RTM Professional OEM:DM
Win 8 RTM CoreCountrySpecific Retail
Win 8 RTM CoreSingleLanguage Retail
Win 8 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:DM
Win 8 RTM Professional;ProfessionalN Volume:MAK
Windows 7 Home Basic OEM:COA
Windows 7 Home Basic OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 Home Basic Retail
Windows 7 Home BasicN OEM:COA
Windows 7 Home BasicN OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 Home BasicN Retail
Windows 7 Home Premium OEM:COA
Windows 7 Home Premium OEM:COA
Windows 7 Home Premium OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 Home Premium Retail
Windows 7 Home PremiumN OEM:COA
Windows 7 Home PremiumN OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 Home PremiumN Retail
Windows 7 Professional OEM:COA
Windows 7 Professional OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 Professional Retail
Windows 7 ProfessionalN OEM:COA
Windows 7 ProfessionalN OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 ProfessionalN Retail
Windows 7 Starter OEM:COA
Windows 7 Starter OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 Starter Retail
Windows 7 StarterN OEM:COA
Windows 7 StarterN OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 StarterN Retail
Windows 7 Ultimate OEM:COA
Windows 7 Ultimate OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 Ultimate Retail
Windows 7 Ultimate Retail
Windows 7 UltimateN OEM:COA
Windows 7 UltimateN OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 UltimateN Retail
Windows 7 StarterE Retail
Windows 7 UltimateE Retail
Windows 7 UltimateE OEM:COA
Windows 7 ProfessionalE Retail
Windows 7 StarterE OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 UltimateE OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 UltimateE Retail
Windows 7 HomePremiumE OEM:COA
Windows 7 StarterE OEM:COA
Windows 7 ProfessionalE Retail
Windows 7 HomeBasicE Retail
Windows 7 StarterE OEM:COA
Windows 7 HomeBasicE Retail
Windows 7 HomePremiumE Retail
Windows 7 ProfessionalE OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 ProfessionalE OEM:COA
Windows 7 HomePremiumE OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 HomePremiumE OEM:COA
Windows 7 HomeBasicE OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 HomePremiumE OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 HomeBasicE OEM:COA
Windows 7 ProfessionalE OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 ProfessionalE OEM:COA
Windows 7 ProfessionalE OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 All Volume Editions Volume:MAK
Windows 7 Home PremiumE OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 SP1 ProfessionalN OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 SP1 ProfessionalN OEM:COA
Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasic Retail:WAUx
Windows 7 SP1 StarterN OEM:COA
Windows 7 SP1 HomePremiumN OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasicN OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 SP1 UltimateN OEM:COA
Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate Retail:WAUx
Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasicN Retail
Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasic OEM:COA
Windows 7 SP1 Professional OEM:COA
Windows 7 SP1 HomePremium OEM:COA
Windows 7 SP1 UltimateN OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 SP1 StarterN Retail
Windows 7 SP1 Starter Retail
Windows 7 SP1 StarterN OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 SP1 Starter OEM:COA
Windows 7 SP1 ProfessionalN Retail
Windows 7 SP1 HomePremiumN Retail
Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasic OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 SP1 Professional Retail:WAUx
Windows 7 SP1 HomePremium OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 SP1 Starter OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 SP1 UltimateN Retail
Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate OEM:COA
Windows 7 SP1 ProfessionalN Retail:WAUx
Windows 7 SP1 Professional Retail
Windows 7 SP1 Professional OEM:NONSLP
Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate Retail
Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasic Retail
Windows 7 SP1 HomePremium Retail:WAUx
Windows 7 SP1 HomePremiumN OEM:COA
Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasicN OEM:COA
Windows 7 SP1 HomePremium Retail
Windows 7 SP1 UltimateN Retail:WAUx
Windows 7 SP1 HomePremiumN Retail:WAUx
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  13. groze
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       New #29

    Superfly said:
    There is a special file called pkeyconfig-downlevel that has been added to the lastest build.
    As noted above OEM:SLP keys are excluded.

    Below are all the editions that qualify for direct upgrade:
    @Superfly
    What do you mean by direct upgrade?

    All,

    This is how I assume things will be done but I could be wrong.

    For those who have OEM:SLP keys.

    If doing an upgrade from windows 7 OEM:SLP. Change your key to the one on the back or bottom of machine. Activate, reboot, then install windows 10 using windows update, iso or media creation tool. This should also allow you to do a clean install of windows 10 in the future without using a key. If you want to do a clean install, install windows 10, then you would need to insert or change your windows 10 key to windows 7 oem key that listed on the back or bottom of the machine. It is still not clear how the windows 7/8.x key is going to be inserted.



    After my testing with builds and the release. I actually prefer the upgrade route. It keeps everything installed.
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