Microsoft Needs to Kill Windows 8 to Make Windows 10 a Hit, Says HP

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    Superfly said:
    Hey popeye

    Knowing you and I luv Mint .. this is how I made mine Windowsy... best of both worlds so to say.


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    Just an off topic to irritate the Linux-haters...Sorry, as you were :)

    Hi there
    What is that theme called, or did you do it all yourself, I'm a new Linux Mint user I love it so far.
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    64-bit 10240 10 Pro
       #21

    Microsoft will never do this. HP may lose customers over this.
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    zooburner said:
    Hi there
    What is that theme called, or did you do it all yourself, I'm a new Linux Mint user I love it so far.
    It's a combo - I'll PM the method to you.
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    Windows 10 Home
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    Ztruker said:
    Anyone who buys one gets the free upgrade to Windows 10 until July 29th of 2016.
    I agree advertising a new computer with Win 10 already loaded would help them though.
    I already bought an HP 15.6", 500gb notebook with Windows 10 pre-installed for $280, as a gift, for someone basically using it for media, email and web browsing. I checked and it's not an upgraded from an 8.1 model either, there's no Windows.old file. Considering the OS alone is $100-120 alone, this was a terrific buy albeit light on ram at 4gb.
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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
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    zooburner said:
    Hi there
    What is that theme called, or did you do it all yourself, I'm a new Linux Mint user I love it so far.
    May not get a lot of love or answers about Linux here which is kind of understandable. I would check out one of their forums. Just being honest. We kind of sidetracked the thread even bringing it up.
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    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 19.2 MATE (64 bit), W10 Home 1703 (64 bit), W10 Pro 1703 (64 bit) VM
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    alphanumeric said:
    Sounds good but not so easy to do. Especially for boxed inventory. It's a lot of work to unbox, redo the factory image for Windows 10, replace the packaging/documentation, rebox etc. Especially if that inventory is already shipped to Retail outlets. You can't just do the free upgrade and put it back in the box. The consumer is going to want a working factory reset function and proper documentation and manuals. I would think most OEM's will just let the consumer do the free upgrade.
    Sure.

    However, I would've thought that MS would like to see all previous versions of Windows "destroyed", so that the majority of users are on the current version.

    Presumably the OEMs have already paid for the W8 series licenses, so they would want to install them on machines to justify purchasing them in the first place.

    If MS were to replace the unused W8 licenses with new W10 licenses, both sides would be happy.

    popeye said:
    Thanks groze, I'm running dual-boot with Mint 17.2 now, sure hope they never start pushing stuff to it.
    Superfly said:
    Knowing you and I luv Mint ..
    Linux Mint 17.2 MATE is quite nice.
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    I simply can not understand why anyone would want Windows 10 (period)? Other than Cortana (i already have Google Voice) and Edge (slow as it is), I see zero reasons to switch operating systems. It is only slightly faster (hardly undetectable), it removes functionality, the app store isn't as nice. DirectX 12 is really only nicer for gaming, but there won't be any games that use it for at least 3-5 years. So why switch?

    HP is cuckoo cuckoo for evening suggesting it. They just need to build better machines that people can upgrade. Hell who wants an HP that use all proprietary parts.

    I guess I am just getting to old to even bother with all the industry nonsense any more.
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    Windows 8 Pro x64
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    Mind you, I love their workstations. Those are nice.
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    Windows 10 IoT
       #28

    mrgeek said:
    I already bought an HP 15.6", 500gb notebook with Windows 10 pre-installed for $280, as a gift, for someone basically using it for media, email and web browsing. I checked and it's not an upgraded from an 8.1 model either, there's no Windows.old file. Considering the OS alone is $100-120 alone, this was a terrific buy albeit light on ram at 4gb.
    There won't be a Windows.old on an OEM PC. If HP upgraded it to 10, they didn't do it via the free upgrade route. They flashed a whole new Windows 10 image to the hard drive. This retains all the HP recovery options etc. They would replace the 8.1 image with a Windows 10 image.
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    Windows 10 IoT
       #29

    lehnerus2000 said:
    Sure.

    However, I would've thought that MS would like to see all previous versions of Windows "destroyed", so that the majority of users are on the current version.

    Presumably the OEMs have already paid for the W8 series licenses, so they would want to install them on machines to justify purchasing them in the first place.

    If MS were to replace the unused W8 licenses with new W10 licenses, both sides would be happy.
    That means flashing a new product code into the BIOS of every PC they convert to a Windows 10 license. Assuming OEM product codes are embedded like they are for Windows 8.1. As far as I know, its not a simple BIOS flash either. Your normal BIOS flash that you or I do won't alter the embedded key. It's a special procedure. The key s are unique too, so you have to keep track of what key went on what PC. Time and money some OEM's won't want to invest. IMHO
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