Introducing Windows 11

BrownianMotion · 25 Jun 2021

I'm currently in the Beta channel. I know the Dev channel will get a Windows 11 build next week, but when can we expect it on the Beta channel? How far is it usually behind Dev? Would mid July be a realistic expectation?

Mark Phelps · 25 Jun 2021

Majulook said:

So if you do not meet the requirements it will not install? The reason I ask is my wife laptop is non-compliant (CPU) for win 11. I also had a heck of time keeping Windows 10 off of my Lenovo laptop which was not compliant as each time MS changed the Windows update for it I had to modify the system so it would not install.

The good news is my desktop i got last October is full compliant

What we've heard is that next week's Win11 is only going to the Insiders. So, if you're not running an Insider version, you won't see anything in Windows Update about this. Additionally, the speculation is that Win11 will officially come out early next year -- possibly around the current time-frame. So, it's not anything that is going to hit your PC anytime soon.

Paul Black · 25 Jun 2021

For existing Win 10 users there will be a staged roll out of Win 11 starting at the beginning of 2022.

sygnus21 · 25 Jun 2021

Steve C said:

My 2012 Gigabyte motherboard has a 20 pin TPM socket but the Gigabyte TPM modules are unavailable. I found a Foxconn 20 pin TPM on ebay but the pin connections differ from the motherboard socket. This is odd since I thought the TPM connector would be designed to a common standard.

I bought this for my Gigabyte board from Amazon back in 2017 and it worked without issue until I found the Infineon TPM chips had a security flaw as posted here - RSA Keys Generated by Infineon TPMs are Insecure.

Since then I no longer buy dedicated TPM modules since TPM is now integrated into the motherboard's BIOS.

Jarfaru · 25 Jun 2021

Wow i just upgraded my PC and everything was fine until this TPM 2.0 crap. Not going to spend anymore money for Windows 11. The hell with MS.

noquiexis · 25 Jun 2021

I bought my Dell XPS 8920 (pre-loaded with Windows 10) in July of 2017, yet the "PC Health Check Tool" claims that it is "3 years old". The web page generated by the "Learn More" button warns "This PC will not run Windows 11".

I was dragged kicking and screaming to Windows 10 because it was so radically different from Windows 7 (which I still have on my Dell Inspiron 530, circa 2009), with limited backward compatibility for the desktop. Now Microsoft expects me to spend another grand or more for a PC to run a GUI that is even farther away from what I really want? Seriously?

"Internet Explorer is disabled." The Microsoft Edge browser, when first lunched, was a dismal failure. MS retooled it to be compatible with Chromium software. I cling to the hope that someone other than Microsoft with bring IE up to speed.

{Start Menu} "Pinned apps and sites will not migrate when upgrading from Windows 10."
The Windows 10 Start Menu is nigh impossible to edit, so I created desktop shortcuts to those two directories ("Folders"). Hopefully Windows 11 will allow user-generated shortcuts on the desktop.

"Is Windows 11 a Windows 10 replacement?Windows 11 is the newest version of Windows. However, we will continue to support Windows 10 until October 2025.Can I go back to Windows 10 after I upgrade if I don’t like Windows 11?Yes. After you have installed the Windows 11 upgrade, there is a 10-day period where you can move back to Windows 10 while keeping files and data that you brought along with you. After the 10 days, you will need to back up your data and do a “clean install” to move back to Windows 10."
It might take more than ten days to evaluate the new GUI. To get around the ten day restriction, users might buy another hard drive, the same size as their boot drive, and clone the boot drive. After you confirm that the new hard drive can boot your system, remove the new drive before the Windows 11 update. If you decide that Windows 11 is not your cup of tea, swap the drives to get back to the original (pre- Windows-11 update). Worse case scenario is that you will have a secure backup of your Windows 10 GUI.

JGToy · 25 Jun 2021

Just finished installing W11 on my Computer and VMware Workstation 16 Pro without a hiccup:

John Pombrio · 25 Jun 2021

sygnus21 said:

Since then I no longer buy dedicated TPM modules since TPM is now integrated into the motherboard's BIOS.

Only a few server-type mobos have a TPM chip installed on them which the corporations use for company-wide security. Most consumer boards do not. Instead, Intel and AMD have implemented TPM onto their CPUs in their firmware. Discrete is for a mobo's TPM header and a TPM module, firmware means onboard the CPU. In any case, according to MS, all three options (dongle, mobo chip, and CPU) for TPM acts in exactly the same way for Windows.

John Pombrio · 25 Jun 2021

Note that the bootleg copy of Win11 floating around has a built-in workaround for the basic requirements, including ignoring TPM support. Don't expect the same when the Win11 flight comes out for insiders.

davidsherman13 · 25 Jun 2021

It looks like processors after 2018 will be supported. Here is a list of processors; Windows 11: List of Intel, AMD and Qualcomm Processors Compatible and Official Minimum System Requirements - MySmartPrice