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  1. Posts : 889
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #110

    I had Build 21286 installed on the first day with News and Interests appeared, but it disappeared the next day. Anybody else?
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  2. Posts : 301
    Windows 10 Enterprise x64 (Insider)
       #111

    waltc said:
    Didn't change a thing...build gsod'ed at 48%, no matter what--same error message in every failed build.
    I think you'll be interested in this, from your doppelganger:
    https://aka.ms/AAas1m2

    He had to do a refresh install, which is pretty severe. I wouldn't do it, but if yours is a young/uncomplicated install or you're the type who does a clean install at the drop of a hat (some people do!), you might consider it.
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  3. Posts : 1,079
    10 + Linux
       #112

    GSOD/BSOD Quick Tip


    waltc said:
    0x1900101-0x30018, The installation failed in the FIRST_BOOT phase with an error during SYSPREP_SPECIALIZE operation. .
    I did have a couple GSOD in the 202xx cycle with a similar error. In order to force it, retry with the ISO and use CTRL+ALT+DELETE continuously (until restart) in the GSOD to resume the upgrade.

    Hope this will help,
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  4. Posts : 807
    Win10x64 v2004 latest build fast ring
       #113

    rseiler said:
    I think you'll be interested in this, from your doppelganger:
    https://aka.ms/AAas1m2

    He had to do a refresh install, which is pretty severe. I wouldn't do it, but if yours is a young/uncomplicated install or you're the type who does a clean install at the drop of a hat (some people do!), you might consider it.

    Thanks, rseiler! Mine is a fairly mature install...really, I agree with you about not doing it--there's no reason to do it because then there's the "next time" this happens, and so on...And I think what if I did that...and then the clean installation bonked out, too...? Nah...this build works too well to do that.

    Yes, that guy's experience has mirrored my own precisely! You know Microsoft will have to fix it--whatever "it" is--as they can't release a commercial version of a Win10 upgrade that forces people to clean install...I don't think that would go over very well... I even disconnected or disabled all the devices I could, removed the existing drivers so that the install could put in whatever it wanted, but no dice--same error, same gsod, all of them failing at 48%, etc. But no problems all year long up through 20270.1 without me touching anything. I even clocked the ram down and disabled XMP, set everything to default settings--didn't make a bit of difference. I even uninstalled a lot of stuff through programs and features if I even thought it might have contributed--didn't change a thing.

    They have to know what it is...I'm not even going to attempt another build until they clearly state they think they've fixed it.
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  5. Posts : 807
    Win10x64 v2004 latest build fast ring
       #114

    MikeMecanic said:
    I did have a couple GSOD in the 202xx cycle with a similar error. In order to force it, retry with the ISO and use CTRL+ALT+DELETE continuously (until restart) in the GSOD to resume the upgrade.

    Hope this will help,
    Thank you! You know what, I did that two different ways--the first way as you suggested, the second way by hitting the hardware reset to force a reboot--both times when the system rebooted it informed me it was reinstalling my previous build 20270.1. Went straight there. But I think it's worth another shot...Oh, joy...! If things should screw up royally I have a Macrium Reflect backup of the boot partition I can restore...but so far I haven't had to use it.

    I may try this again to test the keyboard theory as I'm not sure if I waited until the GSOD hit before forcing the reboot! I'll report if it helped--thanks again for the suggestion...I even tried the SHIFT key, CTRL key, all the keys I've known to bypass stuff in Windows versions before--just nothing.

    I am doing all of this...strictly in the interests of science (and boredom)...of course...
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  6. Posts : 301
    Windows 10 Enterprise x64 (Insider)
       #115

    Good luck. That's the kind of stuff last year, when I was marooned on an old build for over three months because of another Watchdog variant, that made me completely ready to hop off the "Dev" train and get on the slow one. Except you can't anymore, gracefully at least. Dev is definitely less settled than Fast was.
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  7. Posts : 807
    Win10x64 v2004 latest build fast ring
       #116

    Well, put starch in my drawers, darned if I haven't succeeded...;)


    None of my own suggestions, or the ones kindly advanced by my gracious friends here, had any effect. But...

    I've written several hub bug reports concerning my failures with every build coming after 20270.1. Shortly after I installed 20270.1 on Dec 3 for the first time, I purchased a second NVMe drive for my system--a Samsung Pro 980 500GB (running PCIe4) NVMe drive, which became my boot drive, replacing my former boot drive, a Samsung EVO 960 250GB (running Pcie3) NVMe drive. The 960 was repurposed as a data and programs drive. The 980 got the primary NVMe slot, moving the 960 to the secondary NVMe. Until today, no Win10 iso or Win10 WU version of a build beyond 20270.1 would install, as outlined in my previous hub posts and here.

    What happened differently this time was only one thing: I launched the install ISO from the 980 Pro today instead of from the 960 as I had done previously! I think the install program at the 48% mark was getting confused as to which NVMe drive it should install to, thus stalling at 48% with every build and failing.

    Launching the install from the boot drive did the trick, apparently, clearing up the confusion--I suppose.

    All I did this time was move the .iso to my boot drive (on a hunch) and launch the install from there, and as I waited for the 48% mark to appear so that I could try Ctrl/Alt/Del to try and bypass it--I looked up and suddenly I was sitting at 88%.... No stall, no problem, not even an inkling. Very fast--took ~10 minutes or so. Normal, in other words.

    The only thing I can come up with is that the WU install routine--same as the iso install routine, imo--was getting confused as to which NVMe drive to finish installing to--and failing at that point. That's all that makes sense to me right now, anyway.

    The Problem is, how does that explain all of the WU failures after 20270.1?
    I don't know. I wonder if my GPT formatting of the 960 EVO is somehow causing the install routines to get confused as to which NVMe drive is the boot drive? I've got 7 physical drives all formatted GPT which are formatted into 10 separate partitions (I count all the little partitions on C:\ as a single partition)...Up to today I always mount the installation iso on a partition apart from C:\. I thought, "Well, haven't tried that..." so I did and the build installed.

    So, I'm now running 21286.1 without a problem...but I am wondering what will happen with the next WU build. Guess I'll find out soon, eh?... The fun is nonstop!
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  8. Posts : 7,128
    Windows 10 Pro Insider
       #117

    waltc said:
    Thanks for the suggestion. Disabled all of them, don't use 3rd-party security--I also removed all device drivers so those wouldn't get in the way, switched from the RealTek Lan to the Intel Lan controller, removed my thumb drive, disconnected all USB devices except for mouse/kbrd, did sfc & dism cleanups--and more! Didn't change a thing...build gsod'ed at 48%, no matter what--same error message in every failed build.

    Problem is that nothing I had installed was a barrier to build installation all year long... Nothing changed in my system--what's changed since 20270.1 is something in these builds that is simply incompatible with something in my hardware, even after eliminating device drivers. "The bug is in the beta build," as they say... I really thought I had seen the last of this kind of problem a good while ago...
    Can you go back to a earlier build and try updating from there?
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  9. Posts : 1,937
    win 10 Insider
       #118

    Very late to this one. Just got a request to restart today. Did so then went away for a few hours and when I got back to it it was hung with coloured vertical bars on screen.

    Hard reboot and all looks good. Never seen that before but no real problem. 21286 is fine, now.
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  10. Posts : 281
    Microsoft Windows 11 Home (x64) Build Version 22000.65
       #119

    How would I enable the News and Interest button? I don't see an option even after using a "ViVe" tool. Looking through the reg keys I see this. Would I need to change something here to get this to work?
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