Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week

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  1. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #50

    Joanne said:
    OFF TOPIC:

    I appreciate your post #45, just please sit back for a second and imagine the average Joe Dow struggling to discover why the Photo Viewer is not working as expected. I am the average Joanne Dowanne and I can reassure you it is a p.... in the a.... and it starts to become tiring to edit the Registry so much, and to have to learn the usage of the Group Policy, and...and...and...

    Anyway. Let's hope this Service Release will fix a few things.

    :)
    How did you launch Photo Viewer in the first place? To even find out it doesn't work right? It's not listed under search, or anywhere in the Start Menu for me? Not on a clean install? It's completely MIA? Joe average computer user isn't even going to see it? What does it do that the Photo App doesn't do that you need it? Not trying to be a smart @ss, honestly want to know why its needed over the photo app. Other than some people refuse to use an App, for anything.
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  2. Posts : 1,778
    Windows 10 Pro,
       #51

    BunnyJ said:
    Yes,,, but others have said they can use it when they did a clean install. still..very odd.

    I apologize. I am one of the posters that said it worked for me with a clean upgrade, but the more I read about this issue the more confused I am. There are two different Photo Viewer apps I guess, and all I know for sure is that one of them works perfectly for me. I am not sure which one it is, nor do I really care since it works perfectly.
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  3. Posts : 1,983
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       #52

    The thing is Joanne, Microsoft know that they have released a bag of worms - but it is a different bag of worms from Windows 8, Windows 8 is gone and good riddance, and you are far from the average Joanne Dowanne (luvvit!!!).

    You're right tho, it will fix a few things -probably not the ones that are bugging us tho

    Photo Viewer is a utility launched by right-clicking an image icon or entry in a folder, and select Preview in the menu, instead of opening the image in a single task, single image application. Then Photo Viewer will allow the user to cycle through all the images in a folder - very useful if you don't have the resources to have thumbnails everywhere to bog down your system - and then to edit a chosen image in MSPaint or your favourite default image editor, or to run a slideshow of all those images, or to zoom to enlarge an area, or pan over the image in high detail.

    It is a hidden Windows gem, known to a few for over 12 years, never seen by the 80% who don't understand right-clicks. Here's what it looked like in XP, on the same machine I run Windows 10 on:

    Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week-winxp.png
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  4. Posts : 591
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit; Windows 10 TP; KDE Neon
       #53

    alphanumeric said:
    How did you launch Photo Viewer in the first place? To even find out it doesn't work right? It's not listed under search, or anywhere in the Start Menu for me? Not on a clean install? It's completely MIA? Joe average computer user isn't even going to see it? What does it do that the Photo App doesn't do that you need it? Not trying to be a smart @ss, honestly want to know why its needed over the photo app. Other than some people refuse to use an App, for anything.

    I found the Photo Viewer after double-clicking on a .TIFF file. I do not like the Photo App. I do not like the way it looks, I do not like the way it functions. I preferred the Windows Photo Viewer and if I would have found a way to use it for all the image file types Win 10 supports, I'd use it.

    Now though I've installed Adobe CS6. It has the Bridge, which is a few light years ahead from the Photo App, I use Acrobat Pro for my .PDFs and the rest of the programs for hobby.

    What matters for me is that I ended up with a better solution, in overall.

    PS: one irritating thing I recall from the Photo App, the few times I've used it, is that it was not showing the ZOOMing level, anywhere! After pressing Ctrl-1 or Ctrl-0, do not recall, it was zooming at 100% but then...? Anyway. I don't care.
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  5. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #54

    Ok, if I right click an image, there is no Preview option, only Open or Open with. Open opens it with the Photo App. Open with gives me the option of Paint or Photo App. Photo App is my default so that's what's launched if I double click an image. I'll have to hunt up a tiff file, everything I have in my Pictures folder is BMP, JPG of GIF.
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  6. Posts : 481
    Windows 10 Pro
       #55

    I have upgrated 4 PC's in the family, 2 laptops and 2 stationarys. All went very well.
    On my stationary (a gamer-PC, former Windows 8.1 Pro), I then tried to do a Clean-Install of Windows 10 Pro. It went well, activated as it should, and I also got the PhotoViewer error. My solution was also this:
    Is Windows Photo Viewer gone?

    I only have 2 problems with the gamer-PC. No driver/software for my Logitech G25 (Logitech to blame) and an odd error with TotalCommander. Some of the files that opens with windows-programs (like Photo Viewer) shows just a white icon instead of the icon seen in Explorer. It is not all icon-associations, all Office365 docs don't have the error, but .tif., jpg,.mp3,.png amm.

    All in all, I'm pleased with Microsoft this time. My Windows is in Danish, and this RTM is therefore the first version I see in my own language, and the translation of the "deeper" places in Windows are much better than when Windows 8 first came out. Good job, Microsoft :)
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  7. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #56

    Hm. seems to me the bug is with upgrade installs? Photo Viewer is still there only broken. On a clean install its not there and doesn't lunch by accident?
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  8. Posts : 1,983
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       #57

    The reason how and why it's broken I explained here:
    Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week - Page 5 - Windows 10 Forums

    Here is the fix:Photoviewerfix.zip

    Double click to open the zip folder and double click the Photoviewerfix.reg file.

    It replaces the broken Windows 10 registry entry with the working one from Windows 8.1
    The next step is to find the pictures folder and right-click a .png image
    in the open with dialog, choose another app,
    in the How do you want to open this file?, scroll down to More apps , select that, then scroll down
    and select Windows Photo Viewer, then check the tick box for Always use this App to open .PNG files
    Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week-screenshot-1-.png
    Last edited by Fafhrd; 08 Aug 2015 at 19:51.
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  9. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       #58

    Viewer, Viewer, viewer...


    Perhaps some image are needed to clear up what is what???

    Below is the "default" photo viewer under Windows 10. It is simply called "Photos" and is exclusive to Windows 10...
    Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week-photo-viewer-settings-1.jpg


    This is "Windows Photo Viewer", also under Windows 10, and can be selected as default instead of Photos. It is also the Viewer under Windows 8/8.1...
    Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week-wpv.jpg

    What I find interesting is that Windows Photo Viewer is NOT listed under the Start Menu, but Photos is. However when you right click an image and go to Open With, you can select it as an option and make it your default image viewer. You can also go to Settings, click System, Default Apps, and under Photo Viewer, and choose it as your default viewer app.

    Anyway as I said before, I can choose either app and set it as default without issue - Win 10 Media Creation Tool upgrade from Win 8.1.

    Maybe we're talking about a completely different viewer?

    BTW images are mine :)

    Peace
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  10. Posts : 1,983
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       #59

    Nice images: Beautiful clouds and contrasty waterscapes.

    When I have a folder full of images I want something fast to preview them, perhaps in sequence, and to zoom in and pan around to make sure there are no problems with the image etc. Photo Viewer, or Picture and Fax viewer in XP as it was called then fits the bill, whereas Photo is not quite as well featured.

    In previous versions of Windows that I am used to, going back to XP, I would right click an image file, and get a menu like this, and working on fixed windows 10 installations:
    Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week-correct.png

    On Unfixed Windows 10 installs - like clean installs you get this choice instead:
    Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week-screenshot-3-.png
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