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  1. Join Date : Feb 2014
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       26 Feb 2016 #220

    Jambe said: View Post
    I followed the instructions in the "Windows 10 ISO Download" tutorial and everything was fine until I tried to burn the .ISO. The size of the file is 5,618 and the DVD can hold 4,482.
    I wish the tutorial had said that choosing "Both" (64 and 32) would result in a file too large to fit on a single DVD.
    You got an 8GB thumb drive you can spare at the moment?

    Or, can you not use a thumb drive?
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  2. Join Date : Apr 2014
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       26 Feb 2016 #221

    Jambe said: View Post
    I followed the instructions in the "Windows 10 ISO Download" tutorial and everything was fine until I tried to burn the .ISO. The size of the file is 5,618 and the DVD can hold 4,482.
    I wish the tutorial had said that choosing "Both" (64 and 32) would result in a file too large to fit on a single DVD.
    Hello Jambe Welcome to the Ten Forums!

    Edwin is quite correct in advising the use of at least an 8gb flash drive provided you are not using a laptop in particular where you are able to bring up a boot device menu to boot live from a flash drive or the UEFI(Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) quite bluntly gets in the way!

    The size difference began with the single edition in either flavor at first while still seeing a dual Home/Pro iso as well as a strictly Single Language 32bit only option with the Threshold 2 Upgrade on November 11th being a general purpose update for both the 32bit and 64bit Windows as well as for both the Home and Pro editions rolled up into a "4 in 1" type combination iso. The updated 10 installer then automatically the 32bit or 64bit flavor of Windows you are already running as well as the correct edition when going to upgrade or upgrade to update an existing 10 install.

    That ius how that grew bigger faster in order to cover all 10 installs. MS is also more or less trying to gradually veer away from optical media entirely but still has to provide that option for older machines for the present time. I picked up an OEM dvd on a Black Friday discount in order to be able to keep 7 running along side 10 on the same machine.

    Now with an 8gb or larger flash drive the Media Creation tool can see the iso written to the flash drive you end up using for the 10 media. Here the Threshold 2 Update came to 5.48gb on disk. A previous 4 in 1 project that came up from the Tech Bench site used the 10240 build or July 29, 2015 RTM launch build to see the dual iso in one flavor become a dual flavored dual edition iso that came up to the 5.6gb size give or take a few megabytes. The thread is now a bit too old as far as posting any further there since it was started back in August but can still be looked over at Solved How to make 4 in 1 installation USB? - Windows 10 Forums

    TH2 on disk came out smaller when both 32bit and 64bit folders were cleared out from the 10240 build on flash drive and replaced by those from a newer build but in both the 32bit and 64bit flavors in order to see a 2 in 1 transformed into the 4 in 1 media.

    If you are simply looking to upgrade an existing Windows install of 7, 8, or 8.1 you can mount the iso on another drive if one is present to see the upgrade take place without a flash drive even. For a full clean install or even for the Recovery Drive option to see recovery/repair media made up you would an 8gb or larger flash drive since that comes up over 4gb as well.

    Yet when initially going for the November update you could download the single edition in single flavor of 10 in Pro as well as the Home edition with the 64bit Pro seeing about 3.26gb on disk for the 64bit Pro iso.
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  3. Join Date : Jun 2015
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       27 Feb 2016 #222

    Edwin said: View Post
    You got an 8GB thumb drive you can spare at the moment?
    Now that I have the 5,618 GB windows.iso, a thumb drive isn't going to do me any good, is it? Doesn't an iso have to be converted to be used? I'm assuming that if Thumb Drive is selected in Option 2, Step 7 a different file is put on the thumb drive--not an iso.

    Thanks to Brink for adding the caution to the tutorial.
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  4. Join Date : Oct 2013
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 14971
       27 Feb 2016 #223

    Jambe said: View Post
    Now that I have the 5,618 GB windows.iso, a thumb drive isn't going to do me any good, is it? Doesn't an iso have to be converted to be used? I'm assuming that if Thumb Drive is selected in Option 2, Step 7 a different file is put on the thumb drive--not an iso.

    Thanks to Brink for adding the caution to the tutorial.
    Sure you could create a bootable USB installation media from the ISO file.

    USB Flash Drive - Create to Install Windows 10
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  5. Join Date : Apr 2014
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       27 Feb 2016 #224

    Since the Threshold 2 iso is over the typical 4gb size you simply move up to an 8 for the Windows media which covers both editions in both the 32bit and 64bit flavors. The Recovery Drive option also requires a larger flash drive for having live recovery tools on the separate media as well.

    Here I bought some Kingston 8gb USB 2.0 flash drives you can put on key chains I could also use to see 10 media made up with. These sell for super low prices at this time and are definitely convenient to have on hand. Kingston DTSE9 8GB USB Flash Pen Drive Metal 2016 – $3.99
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  6. Join Date : Oct 2014
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    W10 Pro + W10 Preview
       27 Feb 2016 #225

    Quoting from experience......purchased a new laptop a week ago, this being pre-loaded with W10 Pro 10240.
    Updating took it to 10586....doing a scannow revealed corrupt files that could not be rectified with Dism.
    Downloaded the media ISO from M$ again installed the earlier version which again updated, but again corrupt files.
    Downloaded the ISO from TechNet, this rectified the corruption.
    The difference between the two downloads....the Media ISO install.ESD which on updating corrupts....TechNet ISO install.WIM. is clean after updating.
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  7. Join Date : Apr 2014
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       27 Feb 2016 #226

    No problems with the Toshiba model that came out in Sept. also seeing the 10240 and all the updates. The problem being seen now however is on the main build's TH2 upgrade from the 10586 Insider after a clean install of the 10576 now unable to rename folders new or old. Been trying to debug that as well as enabling the system admin and not being able to browse for the profile pic. The explorer won't open when clicking the button. Waiting now to see how it will take for the 14271 update to come in and clear that mess up!
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  8. Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro
       06 Mar 2016 #227

    The ISO file downloaded 10 minutes ago still has not changed. So I think it's time to let people in on a little secret to tell what is going to be downloaded before they spend 20 minutes and 4 GB bandwidth downloading the exact same ISO file they downloaded in November.

    Make sure you download the most recent MCT from here:
    Windows 10

    Run the MediaCreationTool.exe file, which downloaded 15 minutes ago was still version 10586.117. NOTE: the version number of the MediaCreationTool.exe file is NOT necessarily the same version of the ISO you will get.

    When you run the MCT, select Create installation media for another PC, click Next and stop, don't do anything else. Now look in the hidden system folder on C:\ drive "$Windows.~WS", then the folder "Sources" in there. Right click on the file "products.xml" and click Edit. Scroll down and look at the <FilePath> and <FileName> entries. You will see something like this:
    Code:
    <FilePath>http://fg.ds.b1.download.windowsupdate.com/d/updt/2015/11/10586.0.151029-1700.th2_release_clientsinglelanguage_ret_x86fre_en-gb_acf8b7451cd9591b4646fd3b0dfb1a2bbb406d09.esd</FilePath>
    Code:
    <FileName>10586.0.151029-1700.th2_release_CLIENTMULTI_RET_x64fre_en-us.esd</FileName>
    Notice the version numbers I have highlighted in red. That is the version that the MCT will download. This will save you from having to download the 3+ or 5+ GB ISO file like I just did on 3/6/2016 at 3:35:32 PM only to mount it and find out that it's the same ISO file that has been there since November:

    How to See what Language, Edition, Build, and Architecture of Windows 10 for a ISO file

    Code:
    Details for image : install.esd
    
    Index : 1
    Name : Windows 10 Pro Technical Preview
    Description : Windows 10 Pro Technical Preview
    Size : 13,905,900,578 bytes
    WIM Bootable : No
    Architecture : x64
    Hal : <undefined>
    Version : 10.0.10586
    ServicePack Build : 0
    ServicePack Level : 0
    Edition : Professional
    Installation : Client
    ProductType : WinNT
    ProductSuite : Terminal Server
    System Root : WINDOWS
    Directories : 19312
    Files : 98317
    Created : 10/30/2015 - 1:27:01 AM
    Modified : 3/6/2016 - 3:35:32 PM
    Languages :
            en-US (Default)
    Last edited by Brink; 06 Mar 2016 at 22:10. Reason: added tutorial link
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  9. Join Date : Apr 2014
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       06 Mar 2016 #228

    When trying to download the latest MCT onto the 10 Home VM the other day guess what? I couldn't! Instead the 10 installer fired up wanting to see an upgrade after the latest 14279 build was already in the works! I would need to first see it download onto the host machine and then transferred over to the VM.
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  10. Join Date : Nov 2015
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       11 Mar 2016 #229

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    The ISO file downloaded 10 minutes ago still has not changed. So I think it's time to let people in on a little secret to tell what is going to be downloaded before they spend 20 minutes and 4 GB bandwidth downloading the exact same ISO file they downloaded in November.

    Code:
    <FileName>10586.0.151029-1700.th2_release_CLIENTMULTI_RET_x64fre_en-us.esd</FileName>
    Notice the version numbers I have highlighted in red. That is the version that the MCT will download. This will save you from having to download the 3+ or 5+ GB ISO file like I just did on 3/6/2016 at 3:35:32 PM only to mount it and find out that it's the same ISO file that has been there since November.
    So, how do we download the ISO for the latest 10586.164? I want to use it with DISM, and I guess anything earlier from what I have installed will not work.
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