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  1. Posts : 27,181
    Win11 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu
       #200

    Wynona said:
    Whoops, I was talking about creating a bootable flash/jump/thumb drive with Rufus. Sometimes I forget to make myself clear.

    Since I can use Rufus for this, I hardly ever go any other route.
    I now just use MCT(because it exists now) and it boots on both my Win8.1 desktop and my Win7 laptop.
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  2. Posts : 15
    Windows 10 Pro V21H2 (Build 19044.1466)
       #201

    Wynona said:
    It's really strange, Butch, but if you have a Legacy system (no UEFI), you should use NTFS, not Fat32. If you have a UEFI system, you need to use Fat32. Exactly opposite of what I'd expect.
    Thats what i've said on my other post. I cant format my usb from FAT32 to NTFS.
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  3. Posts : 27,181
    Win11 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu
       #202

    butchzxc said:
    Thats what i've said on my other post. I cant format my usb from FAT32 to NTFS.
    Did you try it in RUFUS or File Explorer, or both?
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  4. Posts : 29,078
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
       #203

    butchzxc said:
    Thats what i've said on my other post. I cant format my usb from FAT32 to NTFS.
    Butch, I'm going to act as if I assume you're a complete newbie, which only means I'll give instructions as if to a 3-year-old. Don't be put off by this, as it only means I don't want to miss any of the idiosyncrasies of Rufus.

    First, how did you get the ISO of Windows 10? Did you create it from the install.esd file? "Local Disk C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\install.esd"? Which version of Windows 10 are you using? These are important questions because if a bobble has been made during creation of the ISO file (yours or someone else's), nuttin's gonna work!

    If you created the ISO from the install.esd file, did you use Option 1 at the beginning? If you use Option 2 or 3, that doesn't work with Rufus.

    Create Bootable USB Flash Drive to Install Windows 10-rufus-legacy-bios.png

    This link will take you to Option 2 of the tutorial: USB Flash Drive - Create to Install Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums. From there, go to Number 7 and follow the instructions.

    Look at the screenshot above; this is what Rufus should look like once you've followed all the instructions. One idiosyncrasy of Rufus is that you will need to check to be sure that MBR partition scheme for BIOS or UEFI-CSM is selected. For some reason, if you choose this option before you choose your ISO file, it will change your selection back to GPT partition scheme for UEFI. I made that mistake several times by using the Tutorial screenshot to set up my flash drive rather than using the instructions written in red above Brink's screenshot.

    At any rate, once you're finished setting up Rufus, be sure to check that Rufus on your computer matches Rufus in Number 7 of Option 2. Do not click on the Start button until the two match. :)

    Hopefully, this will help you sort out the problems.
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  5. Posts : 15
    Windows 10 Pro V21H2 (Build 19044.1466)
       #204

    Cliff S said:
    Did you try it in RUFUS or File Explorer, or both?
    I tried both.



    Wynona said:
    Butch, I'm going to act as if I assume you're a complete newbie, which only means I'll give instructions as if to a 3-year-old. Don't be put off by this, as it only means I don't want to miss any of the idiosyncrasies of Rufus.

    First, how did you get the ISO of Windows 10? Did you create it from the install.esd file? "Local Disk C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\install.esd"? Which version of Windows 10 are you using? These are important questions because if a bobble has been made during creation of the ISO file (yours or someone else's), nuttin's gonna work!

    If you created the ISO from the install.esd file, did you use Option 1 at the beginning? If you use Option 2 or 3, that doesn't work with Rufus.

    Create Bootable USB Flash Drive to Install Windows 10-rufus-legacy-bios.png

    This link will take you to Option 2 of the tutorial: USB Flash Drive - Create to Install Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums. From there, go to Number 7 and follow the instructions.

    Look at the screenshot above; this is what Rufus should look like once you've followed all the instructions. One idiosyncrasy of Rufus is that you will need to check to be sure that MBR partition scheme for BIOS or UEFI-CSM is selected. For some reason, if you choose this option before you choose your ISO file, it will change your selection back to GPT partition scheme for UEFI. I made that mistake several times by using the Tutorial screenshot to set up my flash drive rather than using the instructions written in red above Brink's screenshot.

    At any rate, once you're finished setting up Rufus, be sure to check that Rufus on your computer matches Rufus in Number 7 of Option 2. Do not click on the Start button until the two match. :)

    Hopefully, this will help you sort out the problems.

    I dont mind dude if you assume that. Anyway I downloaded the .ISO file given on this thread and I followed OPTION TWO.
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  6. Posts : 29,078
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
       #205

    butchzxc said:
    I tried both.

    I dont mind dude if you assume that. Anyway I downloaded the .ISO file given on this thread and I followed OPTION TWO.
    I will try to find that ISO later. I haven't seen it.

    At this point, I think you have two options:

    1. Could it be that the flash drive is damaged in some way? Do you have another one you could try?

    2. You could try Microsoft's Media Creation Tool. You can get it here: Windows 10

    With the Media Creation Tool, you will also get the latest ISO (probably Build 10586). You could even get lucky and have all the latest updates to Build 10586.
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  7. Posts : 3,367
    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W11 Triple Boot Pending
       #206

    The November Threshold 2 10586 version 1511 build when downloaded by way of the Media Creation tool will be 5.48gb on disk for the size! You will want to use either an 8gb or 16gb size flash drive. That's a "4 in 1" type iso there with an automatic detect and upgrade feature that will detect the edition and 32/64bit flavor of what version you are presently running unless booted live where you first come to the 32/64bit selection screen followed a few screens later by choice of the edition when selecting the Custom not Upgrade option.

    The alternate would be going to the Tech Bench site for download of the individual 32bit or 64bit iso for either the Home or Pro edition. Those will easily fit on the 4gb size flash drive. How to use Microsoft's Tech Bench web site to download a Windows 10 ISO file, create installation media and activate Windows 10

    Originally for the July 29th 10240 release there in order to create universal media you would download and see the 10 Pro 32/64 dual iso selection written to an 8gb flash drive and then clear out both the 32bit and 64bit folders on the flash drive itself to then extract the 32bit and 64bit contents from both the Home and Pro isos downloaded from the Tech Bench page. The 10 Single Language option however is strictly 32bit only note! Tech Bench

    By replacing the contents of both folders on the flash drive and then extracting from both dual 32/64 Home and Pro iso downloads there onto the same folders you then saw the Pro dual become the Home/Pro quad stick. MS decided it was easier as the single update to include the tool that would see to the automatic detection and correct upgrade path function be focused on with the update.

    With the MC tool the iso being downloaded will be written to the flash drive when that option is selected or can be saved to the drive since it's simply too large for any burn to the blank dvd-r in case you need optical media like a number of older laptops will. That's where you then would have preferred to download from the Tech Bench page which has since unfortunately with the TH2 release updated there no longer seeing the individual flavors but also a 4 in 1 download but without need for the MC tool. The tool simply has the write option built into that.

    As for Rufus or any other 3rd party utility app or program even like the free trial version of UltraISO you review the help files or site's own information for instructions after the 10 iso was already downloaded and saved on to a drive. Some like gimagex or ISO to USB have been tried here and found not to be dependable along with unetbootin an open source tool.
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  8. Posts : 4
    Windows 10 x64
       #207

    Brink or Cliff S, if either of you are about, I have a few questions that I have seen posted in this thread. I read all the pages too, just to not repeat.

    About the RUFUS creation method for a 64 bit UEFI installation; I have created the USB successfully and installed Windows 10 Pro twice now. All goes smoothly with one exception. The user folder created in C:\Users, when I use my Microsoft account to sign in during the installation process is truncated to just five characters. This has never happened with any other installation media creation method that I have used before, and I have been using these forums for my methods since way back with XP. When I simply use Windows to burn the ISO downloaded from TechBench to a DVD and install Windows that way, I did not get a truncated user folder. However, on that method, I also used a local account during the install process instead of my Microsoft account. Despite that change in setup, I still suspect the use of RUFUS created the user folder problem. Has anyone else noticed this? I believe that a method for changing the name on the user folder was posted years ago for XP or Windows 7, but I do not know if that would FUBAR a Windows 10 user account signed in with Microsoft as opposed to changing the name on just a local account. In the meantime, it would be great if we could verify that this may be a RUFUS glitch (latest version used BTW), and get it fixed. I enjoyed using RUFUS.

    Also, I want to be darn sure I can do a DISM repair next time I need to. It is my understanding that if I use the MCT method of creating a bootable USB install drive, that I will NOT be able to use DISM, correct? MCT has never failed me for installation, but I must be able to use DISM next time I need it.

    And one last question. This last round of installations using the Techbench ISOs seems to have given me a very flat looking Windows 10 GUI as opposed to what I had with my upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. Even the start menu looks differnent. I realize that some of the difference may be complete default settings as opposed to having tile sizes and colors carried over from the Windows 8.1 upgrade previously, but some seem natively flatter and different. The Techbench version also makes a lot of references in the various settings to things that seem to be more work environment related. All of my installations have been Pro versions, so I am wondering if the ISOs from Techbench, being different versions than my past installs, have these differences as noticed by any other users. Just curious.

    Love this site and all the other WindowsXP, Vista, Seven, and Eight I have used over the years. Thank you, thank you, thank you for saving my rear more times than I can list.
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  9. Posts : 68,893
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Thread Starter
       #208

    Hello Wicked10Girl, and welcome to Ten Forums. :)

    When you setup a Microsoft account, its user profile folder will only be named with the first 5 characters of your Microsoft account display name. This is normal and done by default. It has nothing to do with the installation media.

    Yes, you will be able to run DISM anytime you like no matter how you installed or setup Windows 10.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/7...-10-image.html

    Your personalization settings have nothing to do with the ISO being from TechBench or MCT. Instead, it has to do with your settings in Windows instead. That would be a good question to post in a new thread if you need further help with it.
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  10. Posts : 4
    Windows 10 x64
       #209

    Thank you Brink for the very fast response. I appreciate it. I am going to reinstall using the MCT method, because I have never had my user folders truncated before. Not once. Of course, my last Windows 10 installation was an upgrade from Windows 8/8.1, so perhaps the same folder was used and no truncation occurred?

    Before I tried all this clean install stuff with Windows 10, I had already spent hours combing the forums and attempting to use the Repair Installation that you linked, but to no avail. I could have sworn one of your tutorials stated that using the MCT method to create a USB drive would not allow future DISM repair attempts while the Techbench ISO would. I cannot find it now, and I spent days going cross-eyed with reading, so perhaps I imagined it all.

    The builds may have also been different since I used the Techbench download to attempt to repair the upgraded Windows installation that I had. I double-checked the versions, but again, after several days of non-stop reading.....My perfectly fine Windows 10 upgrade seemed to go FUBAR after a recent Windows update. Has anyone found a way to truly stop the MS updates from automatically applying?

    Again, thanks for the assistance.
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