But I'm sure someone who has used this method will jump in ...
But I'm sure someone who has used this method will jump in ...
Last edited by throkr; 06 Nov 2015 at 00:03. Reason: typo
My VM shows "In Notification mode" since that has the lasted Insider 10586 Build upgrade over the previous 10576 over the previous 10565 over the 10240 first put retaining everything installed on the 10240 at the start. I won't be concerned about seeing any 10 install last there long!
One the main build the day following July 2016 will be likely be seeing multiple 10s as needed while the second remote tower's look at 10 was obsolete unless swapping out routers and the usb WiFi adapter there so 10 won't need to be hard wired. That would be the portable desktop I can move from room to room there.
No 10 drivers! Even an 8.1 x64 could work but none found. So for any clean install of 10 you might just want to check out the support sites for your board, video and sound cards if not onboard, and other expanstion devices ahead of time before replacing the previous version to insure at least 8.1 drivers are found that 10 will put on instead during the installation.
Thanks, Brink, for another great tutorial. I knew that if I didn't respond hastily to the insistent Win10 upgrade reminders that someone would discover a way to achieve a totally clean install. But I need some advice.
I have Win8 Pro discs, and carefully followed your tutorials for a clean install and later upgrade to Win8.1. But I'm keenly aware that the recovery partition is Win8, and any need to use it will mean upgrading all over again to Win8.1. So I'd like to eliminate that partition, erase the HDD and start afresh with a clean Win10 install and recovery partition.
But there's an additional wrinkle; my PC motherboard has been playing up. I have acquired a replacement for it, and I'd like to replace my hardware at the same time as I do the Win10 upgrade.
I assume, from your warning, "The GenuineTicket.xml file can only be used on the PC it was originally created on" that my hardware info is collected and contained in the XML file. I need to follow the correct sequence to replace the motherboard without hassles. So I'm hoping that the following steps will do the trick:-
1 Download Win10, create ISO and backup all my data files.
2 Erase HDD.
3 Change motherboard.
4 Clean install and activate Win8.
5 Run gatherosstate.exe under Win8 and save XML file.
6 Erase HDD, and clean install Win10.
7 Use XML file to activate Win10; repartition HDD and restore date from backup.
If I've missed or misunderstood something, please offer some suggestions.
And one more thing. Why is the Media Creation Tool recommended as providing "the best download experience for customers..."? Is it not more simple to download the ISO from techbench?
Thanks for your help.
If your 8 media has a retail pruduct key you should be able to replace the board and see that same system activated again as long as 8 didn't come pre-installed OEM wise. You may still need to call into MS however long enough to see 8 activated with the new board in and then proceed to follow the guide here. If the xml doesn't work another 8 install and the upgrade to be activated could then see another clean install of 10 go and activate without problems.
Someone else was advised in a similar fashion to call MS once the new board was installed on a family member's pc who was upgrading a 7 machine there. With 7 at first the old Vista case saw not only the board but supply taking the board with it as well get replaced by an entirely new build which activated back in 2010. When going to change the brand of memory oops! MS Time! Been running the same build since!
Thanks for the reply NH. My Win8 Pro discs do have a product key. They are NFR discs I received direct from MS, after I had been dicked around by a suspected software pirate. ("DVD NFR DSCHLDR", "SKU-3UR-00044") So I assume they'll function just like regular retail product?
Not sure exactly what you're trying to explain tho. I did the previous activation interacting direct with the servers by phone, and have assumed that I can do the same again. Are you suggesting that I should expect some sort of Win8 activation hiccup after replacing the motherboard? I don't really want to have to spill my guts to some typically brusque and uncompromising MS call-center nerd. And I thought the advantage of having my own product key (not OEM) was that I should be able to swap my hardware without that hassle?
Do you know the answer to my question about the Media Creation Tool? Thanks.
Hello okkid, and welcome to Ten Forums.
That's correct. The created GenuineTicket.xml file would only be good on the same PC with the same hardware it was created on. The method you listed to install and activate Windows 8.1 on the new hardware to create a new GenuineTicket.xml file for the PC should work just fine.
Personally, I prefer to download an ISO file to use.
The same here! While I couldn't do it previously with 7 6yrs. ago I did make the slipstreamed usb keys for updates and SP1. With 10 however from working with the Insider Preview builds those upgrades are much different ast they simply go on like any service pack type update woutd in constrast to how buggy upgrades installs have been.
The iso downloads not only are convenient when not using the Media Creation tool for media but also for seeing 10 VMs set up. Those upgrades intended for testing and evaluation purposes are only temporary while with the option here you can slap a working clean install on for the long haul.
So far the only option for entering the key from a previous version has been offered to those on TechNet and MSDN and not for the home user who would need to buy a 10 key if not having any previous Windows installation to work such as building a new custom case from scratch. If I end up planning out a new Octocore build(8 core cpu) then I will be looking at getting a new 10 key for that. I'm hoping the present 5yr. old case however will hold up for the time being having replaced a few drives lately!
Question: How do I upgrade from W10 x32 to x64 while retaining the key?
Once 10 has been activated you shouldn't have any worry about seeing the second clean install 32bit or 64bit activate automatically on it's own. On the laptop recently upgraded here that went from 32bit 7 Home Premium to the upgraded 10 Home 32bit to be followed by the clean install of same to verify at the time the clean install would activate.
Afterwards I replaced the 32bit install with a fresh copy of the 64bit 10 Home and found that activated when first arriving at the desktop. The activation servers keep a record of the initial activation as well as 10 seeing the new Digital entitlement. You should be all set there once you slap the 64bit install on.
If I format the hard drive to install the 64bit version, how would they know that I had a x32 installed until recently???
Here A Clean Install of Windows 10 | The Unofficial Windows 10 Reinstallation Guide it says that Ihave to pay if I want a clean install... I don't understand.