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  1. Joined : May 2016
    Auckland ,New Zealand
    Posts : 13
    Win10x64,Mint KDE,VMware-"Stuff"
       2016-05-19 #560

    winall expert crasher


    Fronks- Wisdom
    It has been my overwhelming experience that if you do not respect windows preferred drive locations and ignore them, sooner or later you will pay the "price", you may get away with it initially however to Qoute Jurasic park-" nature will find a way" at which point you will be either"Deleted from windows or become extinct.".

    Windows "likes/will demand this at some point" - set the the drive ID letters like this:but you can use any other letter for other drives- off which there are more available to choose from than you actually have no doubt .
    • Drive C: > The system drive where Windows will be installed
    • Drive D: > First optical drive (CD / DVD drive)
    • Drive E: > Second partition on the same disk where the C: is located, or in case that disk only has one partition, the first partition on the secondary disk.
    As i have crashed every edition from win98 on and used all of them(some of us learn slower than others)I consider my self an expert= "windows crash count more than 200."
    In short, if you want to mess with it ,then you best have a good back up and imaging program.
    Mine have been Ghost15 and now AOMEI (which is free).
    Its Up to you- Kari, Brink,Cliff,nighthawk and others(Sorry there is a lot of "Gurus here"- cant name you all, But can be found on the most frequent poster list anyhow. )
    Offer some World class advice "Free to us all"its not second rate by any measure/stretch of imagination free or not.
    But then i would not know- i Toast my Os once a month..
    Last edited by Fronk; 2016-05-19 at 22:37.
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  2. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
    Posts : 9,089
    Windows 10 Pro
       2016-05-20 #561

    Fronk said: View Post
    Fronks- Wisdom
    It has been my overwhelming experience that if you do not respect windows preferred drive locations and ignore them, sooner or later you will pay the "price", you may get away with it initially however to Qoute Jurasic park-" nature will find a way" at which point you will be either"Deleted from windows or become extinct."..
    Statement like yours indicates that you are an expert in this topic, a method I bet you have never even tried. Because of your expertise I want you to answer the following questions:


    • As a Windows user who has used this method to relocate the Users folder in all and every Windows installation since I installed my first Vista beta version 10 years ago and never had a single issue because of this, I would like you to tell me when should I expect this "sooner or later" to be?
    • When that moment comes, what kind of price I will have to pay?
    • Exactly what will be deleted from my Windows?
    • How will my Windows be extinct?

    Your post made me really worried .

    For ten years I have used this native, built-in Windows feature relocating the Users folder to another drive to save storage space on system drive and separate Windows from user data, and now you tell me that it's dangerous. Made by Microsoft, built-in in Windows, yet something I should not use.

    I hope you will forgive me but I think I will just ignore your "expert advice".

    Sincerely,

    Kari
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  3. Joined : May 2016
    Auckland ,New Zealand
    Posts : 13
    Win10x64,Mint KDE,VMware-"Stuff"
       2016-05-20 #562

    Kari said: View Post
    Statement like yours indicates that you are an expert in this topic, a method I bet you have never even tried. Because of your expertise I want you to answer the following questions:


    • As a Windows user who has used this method to relocate the Users folder in all and every Windows installation since I installed my first Vista beta version 10 years ago and never had a single issue because of this, I would like you to tell me when should I expect this "sooner or later" to be?
    • When that moment comes, what kind of price I will have to pay?
    • Exactly what will be deleted from my Windows?
    • How will my Windows be extinct?

    Your post made me really worried .

    For ten years I have used this native, built-in Windows feature relocating the Users folder to another drive to save storage space on system drive and separate Windows from user data, and now you tell me that it's dangerous. Made by Microsoft, built-in in Windows, yet something I should not use.

    I hope you will forgive me but I think I will just ignore your "expert advice".

    Sincerely,

    Kari
    @Kari
    Good morning.
    Yes i have tried having my user folders on another drive,they are there right now(this was successfully done using your Tutorial- for an upgrade machine)Thanks for that.
    I think that you may have either missed my point or that i left a critical line out.
    Perhaps this may make my statements clearer.

    1. Windows expects some drives to be labelled as it and other software suppliers have accounted for by design.
    As an example some windows software has no option to install in any other location than C:
    Some will ,however they may have to be accessed manually by going to the drive installed on,which may be fine if its not something you use all the time or is not critical.

    2. D: drive,not reserving this as windows expects will give you a head ache.Which would be rather silly when you have10 or more other letters to pick from for partitions or complete drives.

    3. Slimming down your main drive by adding others and storing data and pictures etc on that is the best thing you can do, particularly if you go to the trouble of doing this by moving your user folders which is ultimately the best way along with some good backup software/system in place.

    4. my references to extinction, paying the price and others is about what will happen if people go about this the wrong way which will generally lead to crashes,bad performance,installation issues for proprietary software, hours of time spent on reinstalling and loss of data dependent on what they have done/ how it /where it was stored.

    Hope that helps or that my explanation now makes sense. Here is my set up .
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  4. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 9
    Windows 10 pro 64
       2016-05-21 #563

    Excellent guide thank you.

    I have managed to move the user folder to the D Drive for a clean install of win 10 pro 64 bit.

    I have one problem however. I've put the "User Files" icon on the desktop (from personalise>themes>desktop-icons-settings) and, when I double click on it to open the folder, I'm getting a "Windows Security" warning "Opening these files might be harmful to your computer" "Your internet settings blocked one or more files from being opened".

    This is straight after the clean install so there's only the default files in these folders. I'd rather not reduce any security settings so has anybody got any idea why this shortcut on the desktop produces this warning. I can navigate to the folder on the d drive without any warnings.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
    Posts : 9,089
    Windows 10 Pro
       2016-05-21 #564

    Does the shortcut work without issues if you instead of doing it in Settings simply right click your users folder and create a desktop shortcut:

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  6. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 9
    Windows 10 pro 64
       2016-05-22 #565

    Kari said: View Post
    Does the shortcut work without issues if you instead of doing it in Settings simply right click your users folder and create a desktop shortcut:
    Thanks Kari for the rapid response. There's no problem with a manually created shortcut - the security warning is only displayed when using the system "user's files" desktop folder.

    If nobody's seen this before, it could be that I've got a corrupted install - I was having all sorts of issues with OneDrive so I've abandon the idea of moving of the User folder for the time being and reverted to a straight install (I'll have another go when I have more time).

    I do still have an observation concerning the Desktop "User's Files" folder in that I really would like to know how windows handles this and if there are any settings related to it. In the clean install I've just done, there are missing folders - I've posted a separate query on this at:

    Missing folders from the "User's File" folder

    As far as the issue on the security warning, I'll let you know if the same thing happens again when I have another go in the future.
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  7. Joined : May 2016
    Posts : 7
    Windows 10
       2016-05-25 #566

    Kari,

    Just wanted to say the tutorial worked flawlessly when I had to do a fresh install recently. Only problem I've run into is the MS Store Apps seem to hate the fact that the Users folder is now on D (Store App itself, Photos, Calculator, etc). I apologize if this has been covered in a previous post in the last 57 pages, however I did do a search and either missed it or my Google-Fu isn't strong enough. Do you have any suggestions or advice on how to solve this?
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  8. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
    Posts : 9,089
    Windows 10 Pro
       2016-05-25 #567

    denali said: View Post
    Kari,

    Just wanted to say the tutorial worked flawlessly when I had to do a fresh install recently. Only problem I've run into is the MS Store Apps seem to hate the fact that the Users folder is now on D (Store App itself, Photos, Calculator, etc). I apologize if this has been covered in a previous post in the last 57 pages, however I did do a search and either missed it or my Google-Fu isn't strong enough. Do you have any suggestions or advice on how to solve this?
    Please give some more details; I have my Users folder relocated to E: drive on all my machines, having none whatsoever Store or other issues.
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  9. Joined : May 2016
    Posts : 7
    Windows 10
       2016-05-25 #568

    Kari,

    Certainly. The following apps are greyed out: Store, Get Started, Maps, Phone Companion, People, Camera, and Photos. I made the change in setting to allow installing of apps on my D: and I've also done the powershell line to reinstall store apps and that brought some of the apps to life, such as the calculator and xbox. However, the apps I listed above are still greyed and every time I try to run the Store, Event Viewer catches an error saying I need to view the TWINUI operational log. If I try to run one of the other greyed out apps, it says to check the Store for why it isn't running.

    I've went looking for the TWINUI operational log. The problem is, there is no TWINUI operational log on my machine. I'm at a loss and only associated the problem with the moved user directories because of the changes that I made that fixed some of them. If I've made an incorrect assumption, then I apologize for the error.
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  10. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
    Posts : 9,089
    Windows 10 Pro
       2016-05-25 #569

    denali said: View Post
    I made the change in setting to allow installing of apps on my D: ...
    I think the above is your issue, not the relocating of Users. Personally I have never changed the app install location; all Windows apps are very small and letting them to install on system drive take almost no storage space.

    The method told in this tutorial works perfectly when you simply follow the instructions: nothing more, nothing less.
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