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  1. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
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    Windows 10 Pro
       2015-10-11 #250

    reesy said: View Post
    I can repeat the process several times and it's consistent, the copied user is slow, and doesn't have start menu so obviously missing some priviledges, no errors to speak of in the Panther logs..
    Hi Reesy, welcome to the Ten Forums.

    As you can see with some searching the Start Menu & Search issue, they not working, is quite common and occasionally occurs also in simple clean install with nothing relocated. But, as you have experienced, an almost sure way to get that error is to use Sysprep on an existing system. It works flawless for all new accounts but causes issue for existing systems.

    Therefore my recommendation is either to use this method only in clean installs, or alternatively accept the facts and when doing on an existing system simply create a new administrator account, copy the data from the non-functioning old account to the new account and finally remove the old account.

    You could try the free PC Mover Express to move data from old profile to new profile. Unfortunately the free version of the PC Mover requires two computers to be used and is not intended to move data from a profile to another on the same PC; if you have a spare computer to use, you would need to do it like this:

    1. Use PC Mover to move your personal files and settings from your PC (let's call it PC1) to PC2, a second PC you need to temporarily use. Notice that the target computer must run Windows 8 or later
    2. Create new administrative user on PC1
    3. Now move the original user data from PC2 back to PC1, to your new user profile


    Kari
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  2. Joined : Oct 2015
    Posts : 2
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       2015-10-11 #251

    Thanks Kari

    a fifth attempt got it working for me. I logged in as an another admin user, as opposed to the account that was having trouble and ran sysprep from there. This one worked, so assume running sysprep while logged in as that user, caused the issue

    All good now anyway.

    Cheers
    Steve
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  3. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
    Posts : 9,078
    Windows 10 Pro
       2015-10-11 #252

    That's nice, good to hear you got it working
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  4. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
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    Windows 10 Pro
       2015-10-12 #253

    Note   Note
    Please notice that the method to relocate the main profile folder Users as told in this tutorial works without issues also in the new Windows Insider Build 10565 released earlier today.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2015
    Posts : 3
    Windows 10
       2015-10-15 #254

    Hey, so I just built my first desktop and decided to put in a 250GB SSD and a 2TB HDD, and move the users folder over to the HDD. I had already installed Windows 10 a couple days ago, so I followed method two from the guide, and now I'm having issues!

    My windows button doesn't seem to work at all. I can't go into the menus at all. If I click the little folder icon pinned to the taskbar, it takes a solid 30 seconds + to open up the file explorer. The desktop that was originally pinned under quick access wasn't my main profile's desktop, but one that didn't seem to exist anymore. The computer in general feels laggy. Logging in takes a weirdly long time. However, my applications are still extremely snappy, like from when I initially had the users folder along with the rest of my data on the SSD. I also can't seem to go to any system settings or anything like this. It's really weird.

    Is there any way you can help me figure this out? This is seriously bumming me out. I feel like I just screwed my computer up. I logged out of the dummy profile I made and logged into my original one. My wallpaper and all my files appear to be here, but everything is so messed up.

    I don't know what to do, and I'm hoping you'll help me out! Thank you

    EDIT: Also, after looking at what you asked somebody else with the same problem, I can confirm that the dummy account's windows button and everything works perfectly. It signs in incredibly fast and just works great. I would just use it instead, but those program files you mentioned needed to stay in the solid-state used for app data are still with the user folder, which was created in HDD (where I moved the original user folder).
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  6. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
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    Windows 10 Pro
       2015-10-15 #255

    TheForrestFire said: View Post
    Hey, so I just built my first desktop and decided to put in a 250GB SSD and a 2TB HDD, and move the users folder over to the HDD. I had already installed Windows 10 a couple days ago, so I followed method two from the guide, and now I'm having issues!
    As I have repeatedly told in this thread, last time just a few days ago, a few posts before yours (scroll up to this post), sometimes when this is done on an existing system as you did, the Start and Search do not work on existing accounts but will work on all new accounts.

    The solution is simple: backup all your personal files from your current user profile, open Settings (press WIN + i), create a new user account, change its account type to administrator (important!), sign in to that account, and import the backed up personal data to that account. Last step is then to remove your original account.

    Notice that if your original account is an MS Account, you need first switch it to a local account before creating the new user because Windows does not allow two MS accounts to use the same email address.

    Even simpler solution is to do a clean install!

    Some tutorials if you need them:


    Kari
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  7. Joined : Oct 2015
    Posts : 3
    Windows 10
       2015-10-15 #256

    Ah, I'm sorry for not reading more :\

    Is the reason that this creating a new profile method works is due to your method causing those startup files to be separated between the SSD and HDD automatically for new users?
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  8. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
    Posts : 9,078
    Windows 10 Pro
       2015-10-15 #257

    TheForrestFire said: View Post
    Ah, I'm sorry for not reading more :\

    Is the reason that this creating a new profile method works is due to your method causing those startup files to be separated between the SSD and HDD automatically for new users?
    No. How and where the user profiles are created is not the issue here. The non-functioning Start and Search is a surprisingly common issue in 10, I do not know why.

    Using sysprep increases the possibility for this issue but it's the sysprep process itself causing it, not the relocated profile folder; even doing any other sysprep operations on an existing Windows installation without relocating the Users folder has the same effect,
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  9. Joined : Oct 2015
    Posts : 3
    Windows 10
       2015-10-15 #258

    Kari said: View Post
    No. How and where the user profiles are created is not the issue here. The non-functioning Start and Search is a surprisingly common issue in 10, I do not know why.

    Using sysprep increases the possibility for this issue but it's the sysprep process itself causing it, not the relocated profile folder; even doing any other sysprep operations on an existing Windows installation without relocating the Users folder has the same effect,

    Ah, that's unfortunate. It's really annoying. The windows key + i doesn't even work.

    So if I create a new profile, will it automatically be divided between the two drives? It'll still be the equivalent of having moved the user folder to the new HDD?

    Thank you so much for the help btw. I read through your responses and don't think people have thanked you enough. It's cool that you've stuck with this thread helping people for this long!
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  10. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
    Posts : 9,078
    Windows 10 Pro
       2015-10-15 #259

    TheForrestFire said: View Post
    Ah, that's unfortunate. It's really annoying. The windows key + i doesn't even work.
    Possible workarounds for not getting Settings app opened to be able to create a new user:
    • Right click on desktop, select Display or Personalize, they should open the Settings app. If it opens, then browse to Accounts, create the new user.
    • Press WIN + R to open the Run dialog, type shell:appsfolder and hit Enter. Find the Settings app in the folder, open it, create the new user.
    • Right click Start button, select Control Panel. In Control Panel select User Accounts; adding a user brings you to Settings app, create the new user.
    • Right click the Start button, select Command Prompt (Admin).
      • Give the following command to create the new user:
        net user Username Password /add
      • Change the new user's account type to Administrator:
        net localgroup Administrators Username /add



    TheForrestFire said: View Post
    So if I create a new profile, will it automatically be divided between the two drives? It'll still be the equivalent of having moved the user folder to the new HDD?
    Once done, this method automatically creates all future user profiles in the new relocated location. They are not divided, they are completely on the new location.

    TheForrestFire said: View Post
    Thank you so much for the help btw. I read through your responses and don't think people have thanked you enough. It's cool that you've stuck with this thread helping people for this long!
    You are most welcome!
    Last edited by Kari; 2015-10-15 at 20:29.
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