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  1. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 36
    windows 8.1, windows 10
       2015-09-26 #80

    Night Hawk said: View Post
    Well that's the important thing there! In fact I still have a few 9x-ME-XP compatible titles that simply went right on without any fuss not running into any type of compatibility issues while some of the important stuff like the life time license for the av program here required a newer version from 2014?!

    The repair install using this option on the initial upgrade on the main machine here first saw the 2016 beta version I looked for that one go on until finally seeing the clean install take place a week later and ending up with the 2015 for the present time. Sometimes software headaches can become a bit more troublesome then debugging any OS problems that come up!

    As seen in one report lately 10 is the first version since XP that actually supports any inplace repair install while doing a better job at preserving things then XP ever did! This should be more encouraging for those trying to preserve their existing software environment by delaying the eventual need to see a clean install take place especially where there's need to avoid repurchasing softwares with one time or two time install limitations.

    The first thing I generally advise people to consider however before simply rushing blindly into any newer version is to see a dual boot or VM install first to see if this is what they will be staying with before investing in software upgrades to go with the newer version in case they decide to bail out entirely. If they did invest and something goofs up in 10 at least they have this option available while not every program can be preserved as some will end up needing to be reinstalled all over again while the original program folders and even user configurations however can still be found intact.
    I hear you on the VM install but in my case I had W10 running on 4 other machines with no sign in issues because I used MS accounts for each one of those so like I said "that was my first mistake" and like you said "dual boot or VM install first"! Live and learn.
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  2. Joined : Apr 2014
    Posts : 3,287
    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       2015-09-26 #81

    It can help! Generally with any newer version I would take a look having it isolated on a second drive rather then seeing the existing OS drive split up. That automatically avoids trashing the present version already in use. With 10 however I got the first look on a VM but only until the end of July had the change to see a physical drive type install being the initial upgrade here that needed a fast repair when coming out buggy!

    When mentioning the second upgrade used to repair the first Shawn apparently realized it was time to make sure the guide here was posted as many will still continue to end up seeing bad upgrades where this option provides an immediate fix until someone is able to perform a clean install if they have too much invested in an existing install. Of course this is also the option for someone who simply doesn't have the time available to start from scratch being a busy schedule or doesn't have much on the system to start with and simply wants a "quick fix" option.

    For me besides the fast repair option I also needed to see if the Repair Install type option would work on 10 as it has in the past and with good news it fares better then seen with previous versions apparently. The word on the web is favorable.
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  3. Joined : Oct 2015
    Posts : 3
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       2015-10-06 #82

    Brink said: View Post
    It's up to you, but a clean install would give you the best results.
    Hi Brink, thanks for your post. New guy here. I fell for the Windows 10 upgrade to serve as some sort of ginny pig apparently. It worked fine for a few weeks, but now system will not boot. It gets to the swirly dots and reads please wait, then the monitor goes into sleep mode. Sometimes the monitor will wake up, but it will eventually go back to sleep again. When I started to see this a few days ago, I ran a video card test, all passed. So it wouldn't seem that it is a faulty card (GTX 480). So after reading this post of yours, I downloaded the Windows 10 ISO on a USB Flash drive. I would like to know, that by following your process above, will I get to keep ALL my installed software, and data? Also, if I go into bios and select the usb as the priority boot, (which has the Windows 10 ISO on it), will this work as per your post? I have seen hundreds of 10 users having identical problems, such as mine, but nobody really has conveyed a fix yet. Your post seems promising, and well laid out, but I wanted to touch base with you first to see if this process will allow me to keep my programs and data.

    One last thing, I am now installing another hard drive, and I thought that in doing so, I could sneak in through the back door and access the drive that has windows 10 on it. The new drive will be 7 professional, so do you think this would be possible to peek into my non-bootable windows 10 drive? Many thanks
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  4.    2015-10-06 #83

    colarguns said: View Post
    Hi Brink, thanks for your post. New guy here. I fell for the Windows 10 upgrade to serve as some sort of ginny pig apparently. It worked fine for a few weeks, but now system will not boot. It gets to the swirly dots and reads please wait, then the monitor goes into sleep mode. Sometimes the monitor will wake up, but it will eventually go back to sleep again. When I started to see this a few days ago, I ran a video card test, all passed. So it wouldn't seem that it is a faulty card (GTX 480). So after reading this post of yours, I downloaded the Windows 10 ISO on a USB Flash drive. I would like to know, that by following your process above, will I get to keep ALL my installed software, and data? Also, if I go into bios and select the usb as the priority boot, (which has the Windows 10 ISO on it), will this work as per your post? I have seen hundreds of 10 users having identical problems, such as mine, but nobody really has conveyed a fix yet. Your post seems promising, and well laid out, but I wanted to touch base with you first to see if this process will allow me to keep my programs and data.

    One last thing, I am now installing another hard drive, and I thought that in doing so, I could sneak in through the back door and access the drive that has windows 10 on it. The new drive will be 7 professional, so do you think this would be possible to peek into my non-bootable windows 10 drive? Many thanks
    As long as the drive is sound you can access the files on it from the Windows 7 drive just fine.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2013
    NW Florida
    Posts : 6,501
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       2015-10-06 #84

    Colarguns, I would also suggest if you are going to clean install Windows 7, disconnect all drives you are not installing to. After the install is complete, shut down and reconnect the drives. As far as the repair install, there will be 3 options you can select. The Refresh Option will keep all of your personal files, user accounts and most settings. You will have to reinstall the windows apps you installed. I would take a system image and back up the user files first, just in case. As @Cbarnhorst said, you will be able to access all of your Windows 10 files from the Windows 7 installation.
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  6. Joined : Oct 2015
    Posts : 3
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       2015-10-06 #85

    essenbe said: View Post
    Colarguns, I would also suggest if you are going to clean install Windows 7, disconnect all drives you are not installing to. After the install is complete, shut down and reconnect the drives. As far as the repair install, there will be 3 options you can select. The Refresh Option will keep all of your personal files, user accounts and most settings. You will have to reinstall the windows apps you installed. I would take a system image and back up the user files first, just in case. As @Cbarnhorst said, you will be able to access all of your Windows 10 files from the Windows 7 installation.
    Thank you very much. I was under the impression from this post, that you could maintain your apps with this installation method. My bad. Been a long day, and there's a flying pig that just went by my door. Have a good night. Crossing fingers this darn thing will boot tonight.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2013
    NW Florida
    Posts : 6,501
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       2015-10-06 #86

    You should be able to keep some of them and your user files, account and most settings. You will have to reinstall some apps, but if you know that before, just download your installers to a USB drive and it should be pretty quick. If you run into problems, just let us know.
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  8. Joined : Oct 2015
    Posts : 3
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       2015-10-06 #87

    Thanks Essenbe. Mighty nice of you and others to assist. Good old fashioned service, love it. I will mark this on my favorites.
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  9. Joined : Apr 2014
    Posts : 3,287
    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       2015-10-06 #88

    I repaired the initial bugged up upgrade to see a working copy of 10 during that first week. You would still need to unplug the other drives if not planning a dual boot and have another previous version on already. The 10 upgrade can simply be what gets replaced with a clean install if you had wanted to keep running 10.

    Here 10 won't do the one thing it needs to on a second desktop while that upgrade that had been seen there was the "1 out of 3" that came out working normally! The laptop that followed however was another mess where you wouldn't want to repair that upgrade! No Thanks! Drive wiped clean twice and then repartitioned for the third final clean install to go on!

    After moving from the 32bit pre-install of 7 to the 32bit 10 I went for broke with the 64bit 10 since that one came with 3gb of memory and won't be running much. Had to find a free dvd player to download sunday however! Once you see a clean install you lose the free Windows DVD Player option MS throws at the upgrades but charges for separately if you should end not being able to repair the upgrade install.
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  10. Joined : Oct 2015
    Posts : 3
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       2015-10-15 #89

    Hello @Brink, thank you for this useful guide.

    I did a repair install last night in order to get rid of a potentially troublesome Windows update (KB3081452). The repair went through fine, but for some bizarre reason the update remained, and in fact 2 additional updates appeared which I didn't even have before the repair (I selected no to updates before the install).

    This update doesn't seems manually removable, I'm wondering if you're aware of anything else that I can do to potentially remove this update without losing any data/apps?
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