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  1. Join Date : Oct 2014
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    Windows 7
       06 Oct 2016 #21

    For an explanation of why Microsoft does not show folder sizes in Windows Explorer please read my previous posts in this thread. This is a complex situation with far more involved than is immediately apparent.

    lx07 has made some good points. There are multiple ways to calculate the disk space consumed by a folder and none are clearly superior to the others. In some situations they can produce very different results. Which one is best depends on why you want the information. The bottom line is that no matter what method used the result is only an approximation. If you understand the issues it is difficult to imagine how it could be otherwise.
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  2. Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 2,595
    10 Pro
       06 Oct 2016 #22

    Hey Berton, you deleted your question while I was replying

    There is nothing wrong with looking at the size of a file or directory on explorer - it will give you a number.

    What I'd suggest thogh is test the size. Then compress it and test it again. Then look at the folder it contains and then check with TreeSize and WinDirStat. You'll get different numbers from all of them (and none) are correct or wrong.

    When you start thinking about hard-links and so on even deciding what should be there gets impossible.

    You can use disk utilization things to find stuff you don't want but to find the actual size (on disk) of something is complicated and depends really on many things - not just the size of the file but how the OS and the underlying file system have decided to deal with it.

    For example (sorry if I said this before) I'm running Windows Server TP5 at the moment. If I add a new Windows VM it adds about 500mb to my disk use as server uses de-duplication. This means that blocks on the disk that are the same are not saved twice but rather you have a link pointing to 2 or more different places. As most VMs without data have the same OS stuff there is a lot of duplication.

    A new windows VM is still 10GB but it still only adds 500mb of space. If you (as a program) want to report 10GB or 500MB is really up to you and not an easy question to answer.
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  3. Join Date : Oct 2016
    Posts : 2
    win 8.1
       18 Oct 2016 #23

    Let's be practical


    Usually when no specific problem is mentioned the discussion becomes "academic" and thus impossible to solve.

    My reason for replying here is that I have an extremely specific problem to solve that I believe many fellow windows users have and I also have a decent methodology to attack it. Here is the issue and the methodology:

    I want to find with a top-down approach (therefore extremely quickly), those folders that occupy the largest space on my disk so that I would know where to look to free up the most disk space possible as quickly as possible. Here I can also use the windows search option "size:large" or "size:gigantic" to help me ever more.

    What I am missing is the tool to have the folder size next to each folder begining from the root of the folder tree.

    If there is another way to achieve the same objective I am full of ears (ehh eyes). It goes without saying that I have used windows disk clean-up tool to free-up disk space.

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    lx07 said: View Post
    Hey Berton, you deleted your question while I was replying

    There is nothing wrong with looking at the size of a file or directory on explorer - it will give you a number.

    What I'd suggest thogh is test the size. Then compress it and test it again. Then look at the folder it contains and then check with TreeSize and WinDirStat. You'll get different numbers from all of them (and none) are correct or wrong.

    When you start thinking about hard-links and so on even deciding what should be there gets impossible.

    You can use disk utilization things to find stuff you don't want but to find the actual size (on disk) of something is complicated and depends really on many things - not just the size of the file but how the OS and the underlying file system have decided to deal with it.

    For example (sorry if I said this before) I'm running Windows Server TP5 at the moment. If I add a new Windows VM it adds about 500mb to my disk use as server uses de-duplication. This means that blocks on the disk that are the same are not saved twice but rather you have a link pointing to 2 or more different places. As most VMs without data have the same OS stuff there is a lot of duplication.

    A new windows VM is still 10GB but it still only adds 500mb of space. If you (as a program) want to report 10GB or 500MB is really up to you and not an easy question to answer.
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  4. Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 6,202
    Win 10 Pro (1607)
       18 Oct 2016 #24

    3rd party file manager allowing you to see the size:
    Xyplorer, Freecommander

    Tools to help you manage disk space:
    Treesize, Windirstat...
    The 10 Best Free Tools to Analyze Hard Drive Space on Your Windows PC
    Best Free Disk Space Analyzer | Gizmo's Freeware
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  5. Join Date : Oct 2016
    Posts : 2
    win 8.1
       18 Oct 2016 #25

    dalchina said: View Post
    3rd party file manager allowing you to see the size:
    Xyplorer, Freecommander

    Tools to help you manage disk space:
    Treesize, Windirstat...
    The 10 Best Free Tools to Analyze Hard Drive Space on Your Windows PC
    Best Free Disk Space Analyzer | Gizmo's Freeware
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    Windirstat is precisely the tool I was looking for !!

    Thank you so much !
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  6. Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 6,202
    Win 10 Pro (1607)
       18 Oct 2016 #26

    Great tool... & lx07 mentioned it - #22
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