Issue with creating Image on Laptop with Macrium Reflect

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  1. Posts : 1,264
    Windows 10 (19045.3154)
       #21

    steveh69 said:
    Is this just backup software or can it be used to create a complete system image?
    These pages will give you an idea about the software:How to Restore System Image with AOMEI Backupper
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  2. Posts : 1,524
    Windows 10 Pro (32-bit) 16299.15
       #22

    Word Man said:
    Sorry, I didn't notice you were in the rescue WinPE interface until now. The log tab is in the Windows interface. Not sure where that history log would be unless it's accessible from the command prompt you can open in the WinPE environment (see icons at lower left). I think you open that prompt to a RAM drive lettered X and not sure it will actually store a copy on a physical drive unless perhaps there's one on the target drive.
    I use Macrium and I have a laptop which was due a backup so I thought I'd try backing up from the USB to see what happens.

    There is a log file as you say. It's in .html format, and as suggested it's on the X: drive (and also as suggested I don't think it persists on a physical drive when you reboot). There's also rescuepe.log which is created when the machine boots up, and may also give a clue to driver problems - having said that I had an error here even thought it all worked for me.

    To get the log, the trick is to go into the X:\ProgramData folder, which is hidden. So something like the steps below might work, from the command prompt option in Macrium

    In this example my backup USB drive shows up as drive D: . I find WinPE is a bit random about which drive gets which letters so the OP's will most likely be different. These steps also have the virtue of testing whether you can actually write to that drive from the WinPE environment.
    Code:
    d:
    md d:\MyLog
    cd d:\MyLog
    x:
    cd \
    copy rescuepe.log d: 
    cd \ProgramData\Macrium\Reflect
    copy *.html d:
    dir /a
    {If there are any other files with a date/time corresponding to the backup, copy these too... you could just "COPY *.* D:" I guess}
    exit
    I still wonder if there's a hardware issue somewhere- that loose-fitting USB seemed a bit suspect.

    Or a driver issue with the My Passport drive, where the Rescue Disk version of Macrium doesn't have the drivers? (But I know I've used a My Passport drive with Macrium before now.)

    @steveh69,
    Is there any reason why you're trying to backup from the Rescue environment by the way? Obviously there are times when you need to Restore from there, but Backup should be possible from within Windows, and it may be an idea to try it within Windows to see what happens - if it still crashes then the log should be easier to find for one thing.
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  3. Posts : 35
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #23

    Thanks DavidY for your valuable information I will save it for the future. In your closing sentences it was key to my ultimate success this evening "Is there any reason why you're trying to backup from the Rescue environment by the way?" To be honest with you that is way I learned to use Macrium Reflect in backing up an image and also restoring it successfully to address a failing hard drive, that worked perfect before the last round of MS updates. I tried it as you mention from Macrium reflect within Windows and worked PERFECTLY! You don't know how happy I am about that. I want to thank you again and also Wordman for your assistance as well, both you went above and beyond in helping me out and I really appreciate it. I will mark this thread solved.

    Happy New Years!





    DavidY said:
    I use Macrium and I have a laptop which was due a backup so I thought I'd try backing up from the USB to see what happens.

    There is a log file as you say. It's in .html format, and as suggested it's on the X: drive (and also as suggested I don't think it persists on a physical drive when you reboot). There's also rescuepe.log which is created when the machine boots up, and may also give a clue to driver problems - having said that I had an error here even thought it all worked for me.

    To get the log, the trick is to go into the X:\ProgramData folder, which is hidden. So something like the steps below might work, from the command prompt option in Macrium

    In this example my backup USB drive shows up as drive D: . I find WinPE is a bit random about which drive gets which letters so the OP's will most likely be different. These steps also have the virtue of testing whether you can actually write to that drive from the WinPE environment.
    Code:
    d:
    md d:\MyLog
    cd d:\MyLog
    x:
    cd \
    copy rescuepe.log d: 
    cd \ProgramData\Macrium\Reflect
    copy *.html d:
    dir /a
    {If there are any other files with a date/time corresponding to the backup, copy these too... you could just "COPY *.* D:" I guess}
    exit
    I still wonder if there's a hardware issue somewhere- that loose-fitting USB seemed a bit suspect.

    Or a driver issue with the My Passport drive, where the Rescue Disk version of Macrium doesn't have the drivers? (But I know I've used a My Passport drive with Macrium before now.)

    @steveh69,
    Is there any reason why you're trying to backup from the Rescue environment by the way? Obviously there are times when you need to Restore from there, but Backup should be possible from within Windows, and it may be an idea to try it within Windows to see what happens - if it still crashes then the log should be easier to find for one thing.
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  4. Posts : 1,579
    Windows 10 Pro
       #24

    Hey, same to you steveh69! Glad you got it figured out!
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  5. Posts : 1,524
    Windows 10 Pro (32-bit) 16299.15
       #25

    steveh69 said:
    I tried it as you mention from Macrium reflect within Windows and worked PERFECTLY! You don't know how happy I am about that. I want to thank you again and also Wordman for your assistance as well, both you went above and beyond in helping me out and I really appreciate it. I will mark this thread solved.
    Hi Steveh69,

    You're welcome - glad you made some progress.

    The only thing I'd add is that, if there was a lurking problem with the rescue media, you wouldn't want to wait to find out when you come to restore the backup from some disaster.

    Unfortunately I can't think of an easy way to test the full Restore except by running it... but if that test goes wrong you'd have a big problem as you'd have overwritten your system and not have a working backup.

    But I would at least boot up from your Rescue Media, and see if you can use the option to open up the image you just created in Windows Explorer. I think there may also be an option to Verify a backup image. There is also an option (under 'Restore', I think) to 'View unsupported devices' which is worth checking in case it indicates driver problems.
    steveh69 said:
    Happy New Years!
    Happy New Year to you (and Word Man) too. :)
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  6. Posts : 1,579
    Windows 10 Pro
       #26

    DavidY said:
    ...
    Happy New Year to you (and Word Man) too. :)
    Happy New Year to you also, DavidY!

    I just got done doing a test backup of (the smaller recovery & boot) partitions of my disk from the rescue environment and indeed found the log file in html format at the path you pointed me to. It was a simple matter to copy to the data partition of the USB external drive that I had booted from. Thanks for closing the loop on that for me.

    @steveh69 , I am seconding the suggestion that you do need some assurance that the rescue media will work properly, especially for restoring. You can do image verifications but nothing can replace the assurance you get from actually doing the restore. For me, I had other means of doing a "backup backup" when I started using Macrium (i.e,. both a Windows native system image and an Image for Linux (Terabyte software) image stored separately) and before I did the brute force test of restoring from the Macrium rescue boot. Not sure if you have that means (to have a "backup backup") at your disposal to get the best test of Macrium restore done - otherwise, I would follow DavidY's suggestion, which would have been my choice if I hadn't had other means to test it.

    BTW, just as follow-up. I did explore the combinations of check marks and see how one can image multiple disks and, yes, the check mark to left of a given disk graphic does have that disk selected for imaging. Multiple disk imaging is easily accessible from the Backup menu at top (Image selected Disks...) and I confess I had never accessed backup by that route. I had only ever used the "Image this disk..." link below the intended source drive and thus never had to account for which disk had a checkmark when I performed a backup.

    Thanks for both of you being polite about my own misconceptions and helping me polish my knowledge of Macrium.
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