windows 10 slow boot 970pro 512GB

Hello everyone,
The story:
At first I had sm961 256GB which was fast enough ( I mean boot time was very short) but after 2 years of using it started slow booting of windows10 and when I checked the health status of ssd it was 96% and 13.5TB writes which is not so bad but despite of this I changed to 970pro (new) which has much more speed and endurance.

The problem:
My laptop Asus Rog G752VS OC Edition with 970pro 512gb boots very slowly (even shutdown/restart process is long) the time it needs to boot windows 10/11 is 23 seconds.I tried fresh install of windows 10/11 with different versions of OS,drivers,nvme drivers,bios (moded also),RAM modules and quantities (1 slot,2 slots,3 slots,4 slots) and also tried different nvme ssd models but with no luck.Also I did crystaldiskmark test and got the result 970pro provides at maximum speed.Checked with AIDA64 software as well and got maximum speed.Also when I checked pcie controller speeds it showed pcie 2.0 speed at x4 bandwidth which I don't know is current speed when I don't use it or maximum negotiated speed (maybe it's current speed because read/write test shows 3500MB/2300MB).I checked specs with hwinfo64 as well and got x4 8GT/s which is equal to PCIe 3.0 4x (4x985MB/s) that is the speed 970pro can transfer (laptop supports pcie3.0 x4 as well) at maximum load (PCIe 3.0 4x) but despite of this windows 10 boots very slowly.

My laptop specifications:
Laptop-Asus Rog G752VS OC Edition
CPU-i7 7820HK
GPU-GTX1070 8GB
Storage1-970PRO 512GB (new)
Storage2-860EVO 1TB SATA
RAM-48GB DDR4 2400MHz
Powersupply-230W
Battery-in perfect condition
Thermals-in perfect condition
Bios version-305

dalchina said:

Hi, is that from cold boot to lock screen?

If so that's perhaps about 2.5x what one might hope for.

As you will see if you care to search tenforums for
slow boot
for example, the appropriate diagnostic tool is the MS Windows Performance Analyser and Recorder.
Download and Install Windows Performance Toolkit in Windows 10

This records a large log file and gives, as you will see from those threads, a graphical representation of activity. The appropriate parameters must be used. This is a non-trivial tool which very few here are familiar with. Perhaps only @zinou can help you.

Thanks.

Thank you for your advice.
I will try it.

Quick easy fix is to boot in safe mode, Windos button -Settings - update and security, left side is recovery, advanced startup, the normal recovery mode blue screen will come up, it is usually under extra or more options and then UEFI or start up behavior.

Then it will give a list of 1. - 8. options normally 4. safe mode and press the button to restart.

You should be able to time it from pressing the restart button to until you are in safe mode, it does not load all the drivers and fails to load apps / programs that loads during start up. So a reasonable indication of hat could interfere.

This should give you a idea about software loading or settings or antivirus loading that delays start up and also if fast and responsive in safe mode, obviously it should be much more faster in normal mode with decent drivers minus bloat loading at boot time.

Some laptops Apple and other windows laptops has either in bios a factory default settings option or FN + D buttons you can press that ill also flush the ? cache ? in the bios boot process and is equivalent of the old method to remove the 2032 battery to fully factory reset the laptop bios to factory default.

Why ? because with unstable electricity or just a pink elephant that smoked weed on the moon for lack of better excuse the bios needs resetting and clearing hat is equivalent of a static build up that confuses the boot process.

Normally this 2 options should give you either a direct result of speed improvement or you can rule out where a delay might happen.

My favorite is Ventoy USB on a USB stick and drop a Win 10 PE iso or linux ISO or Kapsersky rescue cd or similar on there and boot from it, UEFI or bios mode that you need to change in bios settings or F7 / F12 / ESC button to access the bios disk boot menu
This way even if the drivers is not perfect and you know the USB is slower you can get a feel for is it possibly unhappy ram and or do hard drive speed test.

Hardware or software or crap loading at boot time or bios needing a reset is usually the problem.

If you suspect viruses, I found the most potent bunch of Anti Virus that does not constantly fail like other anti virus.
Some or all of this or 1 at a time, 99% chance of catching nearly everything that might be there.

ClamWin + SmadAV + DrWeb Security + Nano Antivirus + topical scanners like S.O.S security suite, Adaware etc... malware bytes that Some does give some false positives, but you can verify anything you find if smaller than 650m with virustotal dot com upload and check and form your on opinion.

Same with Ventoy + USB stick + kasperksy , Bitdefender , etc... Anti Virus rescue cd "iso" and boot from that and scan.

MadRocker said:

Quick easy fix is to boot in safe mode, Windos button -Settings - update and security, left side is recovery, advanced startup, the normal recovery mode blue screen will come up, it is usually under extra or more options and then UEFI or start up behavior.

Then it will give a list of 1. - 8. options normally 4. safe mode and press the button to restart.

You should be able to time it from pressing the restart button to until you are in safe mode, it does not load all the drivers and fails to load apps / programs that loads during start up. So a reasonable indication of hat could interfere.

This should give you a idea about software loading or settings or antivirus loading that delays start up and also if fast and responsive in safe mode, obviously it should be much more faster in normal mode with decent drivers minus bloat loading at boot time.

Some laptops Apple and other windows laptops has either in bios a factory default settings option or FN + D buttons you can press that ill also flush the ? cache ? in the bios boot process and is equivalent of the old method to remove the 2032 battery to fully factory reset the laptop bios to factory default.

Why ? because with unstable electricity or just a pink elephant that smoked weed on the moon for lack of better excuse the bios needs resetting and clearing hat is equivalent of a static build up that confuses the boot process.

Normally this 2 options should give you either a direct result of speed improvement or you can rule out where a delay might happen.

My favorite is Ventoy USB on a USB stick and drop a Win 10 PE iso or linux ISO or Kapsersky rescue cd or similar on there and boot from it, UEFI or bios mode that you need to change in bios settings or F7 / F12 / ESC button to access the bios disk boot menu
This way even if the drivers is not perfect and you know the USB is slower you can get a feel for is it possibly unhappy ram and or do hard drive speed test.

Hardware or software or crap loading at boot time or bios needing a reset is usually the problem.

If you suspect viruses, I found the most potent bunch of Anti Virus that does not constantly fail like other anti virus.
Some or all of this or 1 at a time, 99% chance of catching nearly everything that might be there.

ClamWin + SmadAV + DrWeb Security + Nano Antivirus + topical scanners like S.O.S security suite, Adaware etc... malware bytes that Some does give some false positives, but you can verify anything you find if smaller than 650m with virustotal dot com upload and check and form your on opinion.

Same with Ventoy + USB stick + kasperksy , Bitdefender , etc... Anti Virus rescue cd "iso" and boot from that and scan.

Hello,
Thank you for your suggestions.
I tried everything but with no acceptable result.
Also I have to mention that when I press power button laptop turns on then off and then on again and continues to boot process which is so slow (23secs).
But it happens when NVMe ssd is connected but not for sata 860 evo ssd.
860evo on sata turns on very fast.

user321 said:

Hello,
Thank you for your suggestions.
I tried everything but with no acceptable result.
Also I have to mention that when I press power button laptop turns on then off and then on again and continues to boot process which is so slow (23secs).
But it happens when NVMe ssd is connected but not for sata 860 evo ssd.
860evo on sata turns on very fast.

It seems that you installed Win 10 on the NVMe SSD without detaching the SATA 860 evo SSD.
So it's booting from the 860 evo and then transferring to the NVMe. Also it seems that one drive is Legacy - MBR and the other is UEFI - GPT.
Please post a Disk Manager image (full window and don't forget to expand the columns so we can read them)
How to Post a Screenshot of Disk Management

Megahertz said:

It seems that you installed Win 10 on the NVMe SSD without detaching the SATA 860 evo SSD.
So it's booting from the 860 evo and then transferring to the NVMe. Also it seems that one drive is Legacy - MBR and the other is UEFI - GPT.
Please post a Disk Manager image (full window and don't forget to expand the columns so we can read them)
How to Post a Screenshot of Disk Management

I installed windows after detaching 860evo and both of them are GPT.

If both are GPT, where is the EFI Fat32 partition on 860EVO?

To check, on Disk Manager View tab - Top - Disk List



If you disconnect the 860EVO (power or SATA cable) does it boot from NVMe normally?

Megahertz said:

If both are GPT, where is the EFI Fat32 partition on 860EVO?

To check, on Disk Manager View tab - Top - Disk List



If you disconnect the 860EVO (power or SATA cable) does it boot from NVMe normally?

If I disconnect 860evo nvme boots slowly.The time is the same 23secs but if I install windows 10 on 860evo boot process is so fast.
Also I have to mention that boot time on 970pro was short without EFI Fat32 partition on 860evo.