Is Windows 10 Optimizing My SSD Drive

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  1. Posts : 3,264
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit Version 21H2
       #11

    cyberpunk1161 said:
    Yeah just seeing if it worked and no I have not been on my pc for 8 days none stop.
    Yeah, i know should not matter if on PC or not for it to know, meant doing trims everyday not necessary, once a week or more is good enough, unless doing a lot of installing and installing (writes and erases).
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  2. Posts : 154
    Windows 10
       #12

    jds63 said:
    Yeah, i know should not matter if on PC or not for it to know, meant doing trims everyday not necessary, once a week or more is good enough, unless doing a lot of installing and installing (writes and erases).
    This. There are 2 things I follow for SSD's. 1. Quick Defrag with it hits 40-50% fragmentation. 2. Optimize only when you notice your system is has slowed in some areas. As a gamer, you can gauge performance speed by how fast games usually load.

    Letting things go that long, its still infinitely faster than a platter drive, and extends SSD life a bit.
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  3. Posts : 3,264
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit Version 21H2
       #13

    DTG1 said:
    This. There are 2 things I follow for SSD's. 1. Quick Defrag with it hits 40-50% fragmentation. 2. Optimize only when you notice your system is has slowed in some areas. As a gamer, you can gauge performance speed by how fast games usually load.

    Letting things go that long, its still infinitely faster than a platter drive, and extends SSD life a bit.
    1. Just do not use word Defrag for SSD. With traditional HDD too much defragging too often will cause more wear on the drive.
    Do not think one week or more is going to make a difference and trimming not sure it's going to prolong the life an SSD.
    Think what prolongs it, not letting SSD write and erase large files too often, if have a software does this, move write destination folder to another mechanical drive.
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  4. Posts : 154
    Windows 10
       #14

    jds63 said:
    1. Just do not use word Defrag for SSD. With traditional HDD too much defragging too often will cause more wear on the drive.
    Do not think one week or more is going to make a difference and trimming not sure it's going to prolong the life an SSD.
    Think what prolongs it, not letting SSD write and erase large files too often, if have a software does this, move write destination folder to another mechanical drive.
    I agree totally, too much is not good either, but even a 50% file fragmentation is bad. I should explain that a file defrag is not the same as a drive defrag, file defrag wont hurt the SSD life anymore than a couple full optimizes would in a short period.
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  5. Posts : 7,254
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #15

    I agree completely with what @jds63 is saying. I run maintenance software once a week and that is sufficient. As he says, too much use and it will wear the hardware out.

    I tend to run maintenance programs on a Saturday and I tend to run ccleaner, SuperAntiSpyWare, Malwarebytes, Avast, Windows Defrag in that order.
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  6. Posts : 3,264
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit Version 21H2
       #16

    DTG1 said:
    I agree totally, too much is not good either, but even a 50% file fragmentation is bad. I should explain that a file defrag is not the same as a drive defrag, file defrag wont hurt the SSD life anymore than a couple full optimizes would in a short period.
    O.k. if talking about an SSD only need to drop the word defrag. How are you defragging files only ? And you mean get 50% fragmented in less then a week or no?
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  7. Posts : 92
    Windows 10
       #17

    For the full scoop:

    The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD? - Scott Hanselman

    SSD's do get defragged once a month if System Restore Points are enabled (volsnap). Defragmentation can be very important as SSDs run out of pointer space if files are created and deleted a lot.

    The article is long, but it basically says there is no need to run your own "defrag/optimization". Let the system do it properly.
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  8. Posts : 8
    Windows 10
       #18

    C drive does not show up when I open Defrag and Optimize


    My C: Drive (System) is not listed when I try to Optimize. The D partition shows as well as the the Recovery Partition.

    Can anyone help me?
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  9. Posts : 460
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #19

    What I remember about trim in Win7 was you never needed to do anything with an SSD, as files are deleted trim started working almost immediately. With trim enabled there was never any fragmentation on an SSD and Win7 disabled the "defrag/Optimization" task for the SSD. I checked and mine is set to "never" and I haven't touched it, apparently that came over from 7 to 10 through the upgrade.

    I couldn't see where W10 wouldn't do at least what Win7 did with SSD's as far as trim is concerned.

    I have a small exe file for Win7 that verified trim was enabled and working, I won't post anything .exe but the name of it is trimcheck-0.6, here's a link to the page Index of /trimcheck

    PS The Win7 backup is still there and available for me if I want to go back, I'll probably delete that partition in a couple weeks.

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  10. Posts : 460
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #20

    I just checked and trim is working for me on W10, these are the three command prompt windows that appear. You open the exe, you press enter and it writes a small test file. You then press enter to exit the program, wait a little bit (I waited about 10 seconds) reopen the program and see the results. In my case CONCLUSION: TRIM appears to be working.

    Is Windows 10 Optimizing My SSD Drive-trim-1.jpg

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