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  1. Posts : 16,325
    W10Prox64
       #41

    Hi Peter,
    I will address your post #13 below:

    maranna said:
    I can list what I think I should have then maybe someone can tell me if I am on the right track.
    I am not a gamer but would like it to be 64 bit.
    The BIT-ness of your system will depend on what version of W10 you purchase,, and your chip capabilities. The 64-bit would be preferred, even though not gaming, as it is a more secure OS.
    maranna said:
    I may have to modify choices as I am directed but this is what I had in mind. Please let me know if I have forgotten something. I read where some CPU and GPU units and heat sinks come preambled. I have seen them pasted all sort of ways but it would be nice if they were assembled - I think. I am not sure about this.
    Don't worry about it. As I said, this was my main concern, which nearly prevented me from building my own system. But, it's super simple. Once you've watched the videos, I think you'll agree.

    maranna said:
    1-Blue tooth
    Get a USB BT adapter: i.e. Kensington Bluetooth 4.0 USB Adapter K33956AM - Micro Center
    $19.99

    maranna said:
    2-SSD - I think it is 250 GB and should I get another sata drive and what size? I am willing to add it if deemed advisable. That would be 2 partitions correct? I am planning ahead regarding my 2 WD external drives for imaging.
    My example had a 250GB SSD + 1TB "spinner" (mechanical). Assuming you do not partition the drives any further, that would be 2 partitions/2 drives.

    maranna said:
    3-USB 3.0 - 6 ports - I don't think I need 2.0 as 3.0 is backwards compatible - right?.
    Correct, however, you will find that the motherboards (and the one I selected in particular) will have a combination of USB 2+3. The 2s are usually used for mouse/keyboard/headset, etc.

    maranna said:
    4-UEFI
    This is a part of your MB (motherboard) / BIOS.

    maranna said:
    5-video - is NVidia good? I have it now. Does integrated mean you cannot take it out. I would like a card I can replace but am not sure.
    Integrated video = the video capabilities built-in to the CPU chip (in my selection, the i7). The MB will have video connections to use the integrated video of the chip you install. A separate graphics card can be installed at any time, and will take the place of the integrated video. nVidia are good, yes. For what you are doing with the system, the nVidia card can be installed at a later date.

    maranna said:
    6-I would like a phone modem so I can fax
    You might be able to find an internal phone/modem card, (but I doubt it - I had a difficult time and opted for a USB Mini External Modem $50), or use an AIO printer instead.

    maranna said:
    7-Would it be wise for me to get my own copy of Windows 10 x 64 retail instead of with the PC?
    You will be purchasing your own retail copy of W10x64. That way, it can be transferred to a new system in the future when this one is retired.

    maranna said:
    8-I have 2 Bose speakers
    The MB has integral sound connections.

    maranna said:
    9-I would need a monitor as mine is going. I guess 22 inch and DVI sounds right
    The MB has 1xHDMI and 1xDisplay Port connections for a monitor. The separate graphics card has 3xDisplay Port, 1xHDMI, 1xDVI-I and supports up to 4 concurrent displays. So, for commonality, get a monitor which has at least HDMI. For example, this monitor has 1xVGA and 1xHDMI connections. $130. It's not the latest and greatest, but it would work fine and carries a 3-year warranty.

    maranna said:
    10-Would 16 GB memory be right or is it too much
    16GB RAM is totally fine, and what I chose (2x8GB-matched pair). I believe, if you start with 8GB, and then want to upgrade later to 16GB, you would have to throw away (metaphorically speaking) the 8GB stick, and buy a matched pair for 16 total.

    maranna said:
    11- I have M.S. Office 2010 but I don't know if it will work with a new motherboard. It is MS Home and Student 2010 64 bit only[it won't work with 32 bit] and it came preloaded on my Dell. To reinstall I either use a disc I made and enter a key or got to a site and enter the key.
    If you really have 64-bit Office, then you will only be able to install it on a 64-bit OS.

    maranna said:
    12- Is it possible to get a clear tower so you can see the PC s internal workings?
    Here is a case with a window on one side
    Corsair Obsidian Series 800D ATX Full Tower Case (CC800DW) - PCPartPicker
    It is similar to the one I built.

    maranna said:
    Well I guess that is all I can think of. Can someone please modify this list realistically and tell me how to go about this with the online store in the link in this thread?

    Is this a system where I register with the store and they send me parts and this forum advises me as to what to do, or, do I register, pick out a computer and order the parts of my choice - when stuck come to the forum? Or do I just start picking parts without a template and see if it is compatible?
    Thank you
    You decide on your parts list, then decide on your retailer. Using the pricing in PCPartsPicker, you will see if your chosen retailer is competitive. As I said, getting everything from one place makes it a lot easier. Microcenter is a great choice if you have one in your area. I have one about an hour away from me, so it was a no-brainer.

    Here's a revised parts list, with the full-size tower:
    Intel Core i7-6700, EVGA GeForce GTX 960, Corsair Obsidian Series 800D - System Build - PCPartPicker

    $1,130, but remember, it includes a $200 graphics card which you don't need right away. It also does not include the parts mentioned above, nor any optical drives. If you can not take the ones you currently have out of the old system and put them into the new one, then you'll want to add a couple to the list.

    Hope I covered everything!
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  2. Posts : 1,333
    10 Pro retail 1909
    Thread Starter
       #42

    I have this thread in a folder and your kind and laborious work will greatly help be sort things out. Thank you so much for your help and now I have to get busy.
    Regards,
    Peter
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  3. Posts : 1,333
    10 Pro retail 1909
    Thread Starter
       #43

    build


    Sorry to bother - I have a question or two - when I go to PCPP there is a PC that you have to assemble right on the home page.
    1- Could I use that one and just add more memory? Is there a way to change the memory with the order to 12 or 16 GB instead of buying extra and losing the old? I don't know if it is expandable.
    2- Is i5 a lot poorer than i7 and again, could I get i7 with the order?

    **Is the PC as shown a decent one for a non gamer or is it a bit deficient? Being on YouTube would help with the assembly and it seems he did not have to paste the CPU. I have i5 now with 6 GB RAM and it runs fine but I know the newer ones have more RAM maybe due to SSD's.
    Please advise.
    Thanks
    Peter
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  4. Posts : 16,325
    W10Prox64
       #44

    maranna said:
    Sorry to bother - I have a question or two - when I go to PCPP there is a PC that you have to assemble right on the home page.
    1- Could I use that one and just add more memory? Is there a way to change the memory with the order to 12 or 16 GB instead of buying extra and losing the old? I don't know if it is expandable.
    2- Is i5 a lot poorer than i7 and again, could I get i7 with the order?

    **Is the PC as shown a decent one for a non gamer or is it a bit deficient? Being on YouTube would help with the assembly and it seems he did not have to paste the CPU. I have i5 now with 6 GB RAM and it runs fine but I know the newer ones have more RAM maybe due to SSD's.
    Please advise.
    Thanks
    Peter
    Hi Peter.
    Sorry, I have been gone all day.
    The front page system changes constantly. I would start with the system that I parted out for you, and go from there.
    Intel Core i7-6700, EVGA GeForce GTX 960, Corsair Obsidian Series 800D - System Build - PCPartPicker

    i5 is a good chip, but i7 is the latest. If you're planning on this being around for a while, I would go with the latest chip. Intel will probably introduce a new chip later this year, and i5 will be old news.

    The amount of RAM has nothing whatsoever to do with SSDs. In the case of the MB I selected, it holds up to 32GB RAM. There are 4 slots, which means each slot can take a max 8GB. The slots are paired, so you want to buy matched pairs of 2x8GB sticks RAM, for best performance, and then install them into the proper color-coded slots. The link @essenbe gave you for the MB specs has a picture for you to see this. Two slots are gray and two are black, AND they "strattle" each other. In other words, the slots are in this order: black - grey - black - grey. So, when you install one matched pair of (2) 8GB sticks, they would go into slot #1 and slot #3. Slots 2 & 4 would remain empty, until you buy another matched pair to increase the RAM. FYI: slot #1 is closest to the chip on the MB.
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  5. Posts : 1,333
    10 Pro retail 1909
    Thread Starter
       #45

    I spoke with Brian at PCPP and he knows you are helping me. The information you just ave me is very important to me .
    Thank you for the updates as I keep them all in a folder for referral.
    Incidentally, as I am not a garner and due to the cost of the video card, I could apply cash elsewhere if I chose a mid level card -think so?
    Peter
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  6. Posts : 12,799
    Windows 11 Pro
       #46

    Yes, absolutely. I would just suggest you stay with a current release video card. One of the Nvidia 900 cards, or you could just use the on board graphics for a while and get a video card later.
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  7. Posts : 1,333
    10 Pro retail 1909
    Thread Starter
       #47

    Build


    essenbe said:
    Yes, absolutely. I would just suggest you stay with a current release video card. One of the Nvidia 900 cards, or you could just use the on board graphics for a while and get a video card later.
    Good. I will remember the Nvidia 900 card idea.
    I assume on board is the same as integrated which means built in to the motherboard.
    So, I could get a lesser on board one and later install a better one. Do you remove the first and install the second or how does the better one take over? What is the difference between graphics and video or are they the same?
    I will run my moves by you all so whatever I do will work. For example, I would need to knw what motherboard would allow me to install components after its built.
    You don't have to answer all these little details as I can ask as I go along; I am asking b/c I have no idea what these terms mean and would need to know to get the right part to do what I want later.
    I am Googling for a lot of explanations but when I get an email I try to understand the terms used. TY
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  8. Posts : 12,799
    Windows 11 Pro
       #48

    Yes, On Board and Integrated are the same thing. They are in the CPU, so you will already have it. If/when you want to add a Graphics card/video card (both are the same thing) You can do so. If you start out with Integrated/On Board graphics, you don't have to uninstall anything to add a Graphics card. If you look at the motherboard, that is what those slots are for. The Motherboard in @simrick list will allow you to add components later, if you want to. So will most motherboards.
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  9. Posts : 1,333
    10 Pro retail 1909
    Thread Starter
       #49

    So you then manually disable the integrated one and install the new one or is this something the PC knows to do?
    I will be getting some parts to start with and will brush them by the forum to accommodate my needs -OK?
    Motherboard and CPU first.
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  10. Posts : 12,799
    Windows 11 Pro
       #50

    The Motherboard will disable the Integrated graphics when you install a dedicated graphics card. I would recommend you buy from someone with a very good return policy and buy enough parts to get it to run. Buy the motherboard, CPU, Ram, PSU and CPU Cooler at the same time. Put them together at least enough to get it to run and see if it has problems. Then if you have problems with some part, it can be returned and exchanged. Most stores have a limited return policy, usually 30 days. It is always easier, if you have to return a defective part, if you return it very soon after you purchased it.
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