Well, it looks like there's no way to use Outlook and gmail without the hassle of two-step verification. It's time to de-google everything. Outlook is a POS as well.
You shouldn't be required to have a smart phone to use Outlook or gmail.
I've reached the next transition point, and Google's gmail needs to be eliminated. I've already removed it from this forum.
It's time to break up big tech. They're a big threat to privacy.
You only need one to create a password sent via text one time only. After that the password works every time. So in theory you could just use a friend's number or else use a cheap disposable SIM card one time only in a friend's phone.
However I think that it might only work with IMAP configured accounts.
Obviously the reason for it is account security. Once you set up the app id passwords you don't need a phone to log in.
Anyway where one provider goes the rest will surely follow.
Like it was stated - you don't even need to use outlook. You could use your browser or any other app.
It works with pop3 - I now have POP Peeper (small tray client) accessing gmail again (with no further 2FA required).
BUT the emails collected are really old- from 2017!!!! - and I don't even see any older than 2022 if I log in to that account with my browser...
That's now using the new 16 character appid code in place of the original gmail password. The appid code was generated on Google's site as above after enabling 2FA and receiving a single text message.
I don't know if I can now use that appid
a. with POP Peeper on a 2nd PC
b. with Thunderbird (I'm guessing I need a different code for Tbird).
Yes, I can access gmail through a browser or android phone no problem. I'm using the MS Office application Outlook on my desktop and notebook to access, and manage all my email accounts. The Outlook application is what I primarily use. Now, it appears that using Outlook to access gmail requires two step verification. That's a big PITA such that the gmail accounts need to be terminated. I've been using gmail as my primary email since about 2009. There's been a lot of big tech changes since then. I'm now looking for a new primary email provider. I'm leaning towards ProtonMail. I started a free ProtonMail account, which is browser or smart phone app accessible, back in November, but I'm seriously considering the paid premium ProtonMail account, because you can use the PC Outlook application to access and manage the emails.
I think Microsoft and Google should be able to work something out so that two-step verification isn't required when using Outlook to access gmail.
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When I contacted Office 365 support the first time, the rep used my Google account to generate the application passwords for Outlook to access gmail. He had to enable two-step verification to do so. After that when I opened Outlook to access email, I was required to perform the two-step verification. I then went into my Google account to disable two-step verification, and that action also disabled Outlook's ability to access the gmail. So, Outlook can't access gmail without two-step verification. Microsoft Support acknowledged it and doesn't have a solution other than learning to live with two-step verification everytime you open Outlook.
Two-step verification doesn't make my system more secure. I've already got to login to windows to get to the desktop. I would think the application generated password would be sufficient since it's for a specific application.
Really everyone is moving towards 2FA
Two-factor authentication (2FA) | Proton
My employer insists on using 2FA for any software used if available.
I stand corrected. App ID Authentication only works with Outlook 2016 (msi) and previous versions and not Office 365.
I reckon that if Proton Mail already offers 2FA then at some point they might make it mandatory.
I have used the procedure described on Outlook and 2-Step Verification for Gmail accounts - MSOutlook.info (two-step verification + create an app id password) to access Gmail POP3 from Outlook 2010.
Now I have two passwords
- A password created by me to access Gmail on a browser
- A password created by Gmail to be used on Outlook (where does two-step verification comes in I don't know as Outlook works the same way as before)
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