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  1. Posts : 1,791
    Windows 10 Pro
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    If Win 10 still used floppies for install ...


    Just for grins. Standard 3 1/2" floppy hold 1.44 MB, formatted. So the typical Windows update might need in very round numbers about four thousand disks. At 100 disks/carton, that's 40 cartons. Don't know how many cartons to a shipping pallet.

    Fortunately Microsoft (and everyone else) doesn't use floppy disks any longer.

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  2. Posts : 623
    Windows 10 Pro
       #2

    I still have floppies in a cupboard somewhere.
    There may even be some Iomega Zip drives there.

    I may have used floppies for longer than many.
    I used to use them back then to update BIOSes.
    A bit later, I switched to CD-R BIOS update discs with floppy emulation. Those were the days.
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  3. Posts : 31,958
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #3

    x509 said:
    ... the typical Windows update might need in very round numbers about four thousand disks..At 100 disks/carton, that's 40 cartons....

    Actually Microsoft used a special format for their floppy disks called Distribution Media Format (DMF) which could fit 1.68MB on a floppy that would normally be formatted to 1.44MB. So that would only need 3,400 disks - a saving of six cartons.


    1440 kB DMF
    Tracks 80 80
    Sectors per track 18 21
    Cluster size 512 bytes 1024 or 2048 bytes
    Root directory entries 224 16
    Distribution Media Format - Wikipedia
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  4. Posts : 7,931
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
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    You could have used dual density 2.88 MB floppies! I remember using a DEC RL01 hard drive capacity 10MB about 18" in diameter.
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  5. Posts : 11,246
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #5

    x509 said:
    Just for grins. Standard 3 1/2" floppy hold 1.44 MB, formatted. So the typical Windows update might need in very round numbers about four thousand disks. At 100 disks/carton, that's 40 cartons. Don't know how many cartons to a shipping pallet.

    Fortunately Microsoft (and everyone else) doesn't use floppy disks any longer.

    I remember installing Word for Windows (on Windows 3.11 Windows for workgroups) -- 24 floppy disks -- and on Disk 24 got "un-recoverable I/O error after a long painful install process) -- had to wait another week to get replacement.

    When software came on CD's was a relevation !!!! -- now it's a doddle from the Internet.

    Some youngsters here don't know how easy they have it today -- there was no google back then either. !!! If you needed some questions answered or papers from a library - you had to make a "Snail Mail request" and if you were lucky you got the answer back in a week or so.

    Floppy's back then (the smaller ones were 1.44 MB each).

    I still have a USB->floppy adapter -- haven't used it in a while --maybe I'll donate to a computer museum.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. Posts : 331
    windows 10
       #6

    Remember when IBM came out with , I think it was called OS2, We had a shortage of 5.25 " floppies.
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  7. Posts : 14,127
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
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    I have a Win10 Desktop with a 3.5" floppy drive and a couple of USB floppy drives and an IOMEGA USB 250MB Zip drive plus the parts bin has an internal Zip drive, a couple of 3.5" floppies and even have an Epson 5.25/3.5 combination drive. And I have disks to use with them. Never did get the 750MB Zip drive as the CD-R discs became more available at 650MB followed by 700MB.
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  8. Posts : 18,440
    Windows 11 Pro
       #8

    Now come on...anybody remember probably what was the first AIO computer? With 8" 500Kb floppy disk?

    If Win 10 still used floppies for install ...-download.jpg

    I remember when 3.5" high density floppies at 1.44 MB were considered bleeding edge innovation!

    Now here's an interesting tidbit. The US Air Force used 8" floppy discs in computer systems controlling US nuclear missiles until June, 2019!
    The US nuclear forces’ Dr. Strangelove-era messaging system finally got rid of its floppy disks
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  9. Posts : 14,127
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #9

    And if I recall correctly that keyboard was the cover for the screen and drive bays.
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  10. Posts : 18,440
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Berton said:
    And if I recall correctly that keyboard was the cover for the screen and drive bays.
    I don't think the keyboard on that one latched up to cover the screen. And then there was this:

    If Win 10 still used floppies for install ...-rs-2.jpg

    Almost 8 1/2 MILLION bytes of storage! And only $4,500 in 1981. I remember "TRISS DOS". Apple had some funky way of doing DOS commands on the APPLE IIe; wasn't it something like PRINT CHR$(4) "<DOS COMMAND>". You actually had to print the DOS command in BASIC.
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