Yes, yes, yes ... all well and goodb. Stand-alone software. If you acquired the software as stand-alone software (and also if you upgraded from software you acquired as stand-alone software), you may transfer the software to another device that belongs to you. You may also transfer the software to a device owned by someone else if (i) you are the first licensed user of the software and (ii) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement. You may use the backup copy we allow you to make or the media that the software came on to transfer the software. Every time you transfer the software to a new device, you must remove the software from the prior device. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between devices.
As you said seems and as far as we know
The reason I started the thread was because I saw posts that were just wrong (you'll be able to use your Winx key to install Win10 after 29 July) ... and it dawned on me that I didn't know the answer either.
Since User Agreements are binding, I'll stand by my original assumption it will take
a miraclephone activation.
Install and activate Win10 on a new machine after 29 July 2016 using a Retail Win7 or Win8 key
Two schools of thought
1) No, never, not, nyet ... but you can install and activate your base license
2) Maybe with phone activation, a printed copy of the EULA, and a lawyer
but wait, there are two eternal optimists in the world - there's still hope then!
I'm sure MS is crunching the numbers and will some decisions late July, rewrite the EULA once again and chaos shall reign!
I was waiting for someone to say:
"Sure Bill and how much is that lawyer going to cost? Why not just pay for a Win10 Retail license?"
Men in Tights Toll bridge scene
Little John: A Toll is a toll...
Achoo: Hey man, this ain't exactly the Mississippi. I'm on the east bank, I'm on the west bank ...
Robin Hood: That's not the point ... It's the principal of the thing
Long live eternal optimism!
Microsoft tweaks activation rules for the Windows 10 Anniversary Update | ZDNet
My upgrade path is Win7 Home (OEM key present) -> Clean install Retail Win8 Pro -> Upgrade to free Win10 Pro.....
Here's the short version: Beginning with the Anniversary Update, version 1607, you'll be able to link a Windows 10 digital license with a Microsoft account. This linkage occurs automatically if you're signed in with a Microsoft account when you upgrade to version 1607.
For anyone else, including those with local or domain accounts, this step is optional. In any case, it applies only to those who have a Windows 10 digital license. That group consists primarily of those who took advantage of the year-long free upgrade offer that ends on July 29, 2016.
That situation might apply if you purchased a PC with Windows 10 Home installed by the OEM and then upgraded to Windows 10 Pro during the free upgrade period using a product key from a retail copy of Windows 7 Professional, for example.
In that situation, a clean reinstall of Windows 10 might result in the Home version being activated. The procedure for upgrading to Windows 10 Pro is far from obvious, involving generic product keys that aren't officially published. Here, too, being able to link that Windows 10 Pro license to a Microsoft account makes it possible to identify the correct digital license.
I sign-in with a local account, but I have a few MS accounts that I use for testing.
I will have to test this after 29 July 2016
But it sounds as though MS understands the issue many people face with Retail keys for previous versions, the free upgrade to Win10, and the free upgrade ending.
One license, one machine - Win10 is an upgrade license for the previous license. You cannot run both at the same time.
You can uninstall Win10 and install the previous license anytime you wish.
Have you not tied the Win10 licence for that copy of Win8.1 to the current machine already ?
ie you can't use win 8.1 key to install Win10 (free) on a new machine , as digital entitlement is on current machine , or is that invalided when you uninstall from Current machine ?
in the future it won't be free anyway ....so I think I'm missing something.... or need to reread the thread ?
I get a new computer. I remove all versions of Windows from the old computer by reformatting the hard drive. It still has the digital license for Windows 10 for it saved on Microsoft activation servers, though. I could re-install Windows 10 at any time and it would retrieve the digital license to activate itself. I install my Windows 7 retail version on the new computer. I upgrade that to Windows 10 for free. The new computer now ALSO has an digital license for Windows 10 saved on Microsoft activation servers. The digital licenses saved on Microsoft activation servers are matched with Hardware ID's of the computers - not the product keys they came from. That's why every upgrade to Windows 10 Home from Windows 7/8/8.1 will get the same product key. Every upgrade to Windows 10 Pro will get the same product key. Etc. When you re-install Windows 10 you skip entering the product key. Because the digital license is matched with the hardware ID of the computer, not a product key.
Now, there are two computers with digital licenses for Windows 10 stored on Microsoft activation servers that originated from the same Windows 7/8/8.1 product key. That's just the way it is. Microsoft is relying upon the user to stay honest.