1.    02 May 2016 #1
    Join Date : May 2016
    Posts : 3
    Windows 10

    USMT 10 - issues with profile when migrating from Win7 to Win10


    Has anyone used USMT 10 to migrate from Win7 to Win10?

    I have used USMT successfully in the past to move WinXP (32-bit) to Win7 Pro (64-bit). I downloaded the new ADK to get the v10 tools. I now have USMT 10 and was practicing the migration of Win7 Pro 64-bit users to Win10 Enterprise 64-bit. Just for completeness, I also tried Win7 Enterprise 64-bit -> USMT -> Win10 Enterprise 64-bit. The results were the same.

    I have used the original MIG XML files previously and they did what I needed, so I intended to do the same here. My XML files are unmodified at this point, but I tried with a few modifications aimed at not bringing over Start Menu (shared & user specific) *.LNK files.I have had this failure with both the "no LNK files" and stock XML versions. I tested and the migration logs (scanstate and loadstate) both claim no error in the migration process. Reviewing the logs I see no critical errors or warnings.

    The problem is that following the migration, the profiles that were migrated cannot use Start Menu, Cortana/Search, Notification Area (Action Center), or right click any icon pinned to the Taskbar. SearchUI.exe appears to not be running when I review Task Manager -> Details. Cortana is not listed under Processes.

    A new user - someone who logs on without a migrated profile - is created properly and they work normally. Existing users - the tech profile that existed prior to the migration - work fine. It is only a failure within the migrated profiles. I have tried the suggested Start Menu repair actions (the Get-AppXPackage / AppXManifest.xml process) and multiple other suggestions. Nothing seems to repair this, and since I can create a new profile successfully or use a non-migrated existing profile, I have to believe it's a flaw in what I'm doing with USMT.

    My scanstate script is: scanstate.exe \\system\migration_folder /i:migapp.xml /i:migdocs.xml /o /uel:90 /l:C:\scanstate.log /v:13

    My loadstate script is: loadstate.exe \\system\migration_folder /i:migapp.xml /i:c:\intel\usmtfiles\miguser.xml /l:C:\loadstatelog /v:13
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  2.    05 May 2016 #2
    Join Date : Apr 2015
    Posts : 94
    win 10 pro

    It's out of the box I was thinking in.
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  3.    06 May 2016 #3
    Join Date : May 2016
    Posts : 4

    I am having the same issue with Windows 7 to Windows 10 USMT. Have been cracking away at this for a couple days. Will let you know if I find anything.
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  4.    17 May 2016 #4
    Join Date : May 2016
    Posts : 4

    Hey Mike,
    I found that my problem was from using the CopyProfile function in sysprep. Without CopyProfile, USMT works just fine. Thanks Microsoft...

    For the USMT functionality I would recommend adding a couple things.

    1. Generate a Config File to customize the settings being moved:scanstate.exe /i:MigUser.xml /i:MigApp.xml /genconfig:Config.xml
    - Edit the Config.xml to your liking. I would Exclude any Startmenu / Taskbar settings.

    2. Add this line to your script right before the scanstate line. It will skip missing profiles which can save a lot of time.

    3. Add a second layer of logging so that you have a more granular output. Here is what I use:
    scanstate.exe %USMTDEST% /localonly /i:Miguser.xml /i:MigApp.xml /config:config.xml /progress:scanstate_progress.log /l:scanstate.log /efs:copyraw /o /c /v:13 /UEL:30

    4. Lastly for redundancy, I like to check the mig file to make sure it is not corrupt.
    usmtutils.exe /verify:Summary "USMT.mig" /l:"Integrity_Check.log"
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  5.    17 May 2016 #5
    Join Date : May 2016
    Posts : 3
    Windows 10

    Hi Keyboard Jockey,
    I think I reached the same conclusion when my coworkers and I started brainstorming about Sysprep as the issue not USMT. Unfortunately, you're confirming what I just saw in test earlier this morning.

    I was thinking that in Win7 to Win10 moves, it would be best to start clean and I would have the user logon, let the profile build fresh, then copy data from Win7 (old machine) to Win10 (new machine). That would preserve the default profile settings we pre-supply as part of our imaging.

    The other option was to drop the CopyProfile portion of the process like you did and then use USMT. Since you are doing that, I am curious how you handle customizations, especially Start Menu customizations.

    We had a nice Start Menu config with our key applications pinned in logical groups. Losing that is not a deal breaker, but having the core applications pinned was well received by our test/pilot users. From a callback standpoint, I'd hate to lose the ability to customize our default profile.

    I don't see how this got past MS quality assurance testing; enterprise customers shouldn't have to sacrifice using custom default profiles or the USMT tool.

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  6.    17 May 2016 #6
    Join Date : May 2016
    Posts : 4

    Luckily Microsoft has given us Import / Export functionality for customizing the default profile post image. Here is what I am using:
    Note that I just found the CopyProfile piece and have not completely tested. Will get back to you after final testing.

    Export Start menu and Default App associations from a pre-configured computer:
    Export-StartLayout -Path C:\tmp\start.xml

    Dism /Online /Export-DefaultAppAssociations:%~dp0Defaultapps.xml

    Then Import them back:
    Import-StartLayout -LayoutPath C:\Temp\start.xml -MountPath $env:SystemDrive\
    Dism.exe /online /Import-DefaultAppAssociations:%~dp0Defaultapps.xml

    I bundle the import functions with the ManageTaskbar customizer:
    TechNet Manage the taskbar / remove the Edge icon for new users
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  7.    19 May 2016 #7
    Join Date : May 2016
    Posts : 4

    I figured it out finally!

    You have to download and install the updates manually. I installed the updates from March 1st and 8th and now copyprofile does not break USMT.

    Here is the link:

    Last edited by Keyboard Jockey; 20 May 2016 at 09:48.
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  8.    23 May 2016 #8
    Join Date : May 2016
    Posts : 3
    Windows 10

    Thank you Keyboard Jockey. I see USMT in the list of fixes for the March 1st 10586.122 build. We are currently using build 10586.218 (April 12) so I was wondering if you had already injected the March 1st & March 8th updates into your master image before this test.
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