done w windows 10 until further notice

DustSailor, if you had problems of running check Disk when you booted into another OS on the same machine, it was not in BIOS. It is a setting in Windows 10.

essenbe said:

DustSailor, if you had problems of running check Disk when you booted into another OS on the same machine, it was not in BIOS. It is a setting in Windows 10.

Sorry, no, I didn't mean that. I didn't run check disk (my SSD is A-Ok), and I only have a single OS installed. I was only referring to the fast startup issues, and making note that my Motherboard also had an ultra fast startup option.

And also mentioning secure boot. Which now I'm confused if it works with 10 or not. Or if you can simply enable it in the BIOS or if that is not how it works.

If you have a UEFI Install, you can enable it. If you have a Legacy install, it is probably not a good idea. It depends on the settings in the CSM module (Compatibility Support Module). Your Boot option for the hard drive has to be set to Windows Boot Manager not just the hard drive.

essenbe said:

If you have a UEFI Install, you can enable it. If you have a Legacy install, it is probably not a good idea. It depends on the settings in the CSM module (Compatibility Support Module). Your Boot option for the hard drive has to be set to Windows Boot Manager not just the hard drive.

It is, I noticed that. So I'm going to try to enable it again, and hope that the issues stemmed from fast startup only. Though it is strange that it wouldn't boot to UEFI (BIOS). Trial and error. What's the worst that can happen?

DustSailor said:

It is, I noticed that. So I'm going to try to enable it again, and hope that the issues stemmed from fast startup only. Though it is strange that it wouldn't boot to UEFI (BIOS). Trial and error. What's the worst that can happen?

Slloooooowwww startup?

Word Man said:

Slloooooowwww startup?

Just my IMO... seeing slow startup up also. MS is playing with memory compression. If you have a decent amount of mem and cpu, etc. why waste the time squeezing the bits and bytes? It should sense what you have and only do that when resources are low.

Asus Motherboards seem to always have a slow POST, no matter how you set it. Other boards, I don't know about. I really don't know about memory compression. I have enough and fast enough ram that it shouldn't be a concern. Maybe it is. If you time the start up from the time you see the 'Starting Windows' I think you will get the true start up speed. The rest is Bios POST/UEFI post or whatever it's called now.

f14tomcat said:

Just my IMO... seeing slow startup up also. MS is playing with memory compression. If you have a decent amount of mem and cpu, etc. why waste the time squeezing the bits and bytes? It should sense what you have and only do that when resources are low.

Just in case - I wasn't advocating use of Fast Startup by any means - it was just a gentle tease to DustSailor.

My limited first hand reference cases are on my newish Dell Laptop, which I upgraded to an SSD before taking the Win10 upgrade, and my wife's laptop, a 3 year old Acer which appears to only run up to SATA 2.

I never experienced what I would judge as slow startup on my laptop but I didn't particularly like the hybrid sleep/Fast Startup behaviors and just disabled it early on. I don't feel like I'm missing anything having it off.

My wife's chief laptop complaint was "it's so slow" (WIn 7 Premium Home). I applied a Win 8 Pro upgrade to it that came with the laptop, updated to Win 8.1, and used GWX to upgrade to Win 10 Pro - still slow whether Fast Startup was off or on, opted to shut Fast Startup off for that one too. What did do the trick (not sure I can separate them) was upgrading her RAM from 4 to 8 GB, replacing the 500 GB 5400 rpm HDD with a Samsung 850 EVO 500GB, and then running a clean install, all over a weekend. Now it's MUCH faster in both startup and the things that matter to her. Yes, the SSD is limited (on benchmarks, but does that really matter?) by SATA 2 channel versus SATA 3 but tons faster than the old HDD. No incentive to re-enable Fast Startup on that I've seen yet.

Matt Siegel said:

well i still think that I'm better off just keeping only 7 on my system now until further notice due to all the issues I've encountered so far. but if i decide to put 10 on it as well would i be better off creating a totally separate volume or just creating a separate partition on the replacement hard drive i just received?

If you're having driver issues, I agree with you, keep the old one (you're really not missing out on much). You've upgraded and activated, so you should have a valid license to upgrade in the future whenever you need. <- I don't know how long this lasts or if it has an expiration, would be curious to find out for sure. But you have at LEAST till the free upgrade offer is taken down.