Win 10 Pro forced upgrade.. sigh.

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  1. zil
    Posts : 33
    Win 7 Pro x64
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       #11

    Yes, of course I do!
    Last year I bought a new copy of Win 7 Pro x64 and I updated that to Win 10 Pro. So if I didn't like it I could've gone back to Win 7.. but I managed to configure everything as I liked and stayed with it.

    Why can't I just make it update to whatever newer build it wants to..?
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  2. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #12

    zil said:
    Yes, of course I do!
    Last year I bought a new copy of Win 7 Pro x64 and I updated that to Win 10 Pro. So if I didn't like it I could've gone back to Win 7.. but I managed to configure everything as I liked and stayed with it.

    Why can't I just make it update to whatever newer build it wants to..?
    Well, you can try a manual update 10 to Insider build 14372 getting it here:
    Windows 10 Insider Preview

    It seems like your Windows Update might be broken and manually installing a new update will probably fix that.
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  3. zil
    Posts : 33
    Win 7 Pro x64
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       #13

    NavyLCDR said:
    Well, you can try a manual update 10 to Insider build 14372 getting it here:
    Windows 10 Insider Preview

    It seems like your Windows Update might be broken and manually installing a new update will probably fix that.
    I tried that.. well not with this exact build, but from a newer one anyway. Got the iso and started install, then got the error message: "You can't keep Windows settings, personal files and apps because your current version of Windows might be installed in an unsupported directory." I suppose 14372 will be the same, although I'd be super happy if it wasn't. And I DO want to keep my stuff..

    EDIT: I managed to get Windows Update working again. Through this: Winkey + R and run "gpedit.msc". Under 'Computer Configuration' go through the tree as follows: Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update. From there I set the state for "Defer Upgrades and Updates" to disabled and "Turn on recommended updates" to enable. These were both previously unconfigured. After a restart and "check for updates" in the setttings app, Windows Update found a lot of stuff again and started downloading.
    Last edited by zil; 14 Jul 2016 at 11:19.
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  4. zil
    Posts : 33
    Win 7 Pro x64
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       #14

    It downloads the latest build 14388, then configures the updates and restarts.. after I see the "working on updates 0%" screen, it restarts again and reverts to previous build..
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  5. Posts : 471
    Windows 10 Pro
       #15

    Well you need to get more specific. Something is blocking the update process. In order to help you we need to know what changes have actually been done to your Windows installation. What tools have you used... Without such knowledge nobody will be able to help you.

    Oh and by the way, if you are that much into customizing, why on earth do you use a preview version which can break any customization you might have made with any future update? Also, doesn't it appear a bit strange to you to run an preview version but at the same time you block updates? Seriously, if you want to customize that much of the GUI I really recommend sticking with the ordinary retail version.
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  6. zil
    Posts : 33
    Win 7 Pro x64
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       #16

    altae said:
    Well you need to get more specific. Something is blocking the update process. In order to help you we need to know what changes have actually been done to your Windows installation. What tools have you used... Without such knowledge nobody will be able to help you.

    Oh and by the way, if you are that much into customizing, why on earth do you use a preview version which can break any customization you might have made with any future update? Also, doesn't it appear a bit strange to you to run an preview version but at the same time you block updates? Seriously, if you want to customize that much of the GUI I really recommend sticking with the ordinary retail version.
    My GUI is actually pretty simple. I use the old style taskbar with no pinned applications. I use the quick launch. These are both things I can do inside Windows itself without 3rd party stuff. Then I use Classic Start menu which is a simple application to get old style tree-based start menu. Last thing I've done is get rid of unnecessary stuff in file explorer, especially the horrible ribbon interface. Ok then I disabled lock screen with the clock and removed default picture from login screen (it's now just plain colour now).

    Anyway, the build I had (11082) was working perfectly until this stupid expiration thing came about. It's been stable, works fast, boots up quickly and is very nice.

    I don't know how I got into preview builds, if I could opt out the insider program, I would. But that seems impossible. I just updated my Win 7 to Win 10, did a couple of build updates and sticked with that.
    Last edited by zil; 14 Jul 2016 at 14:53.
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  7. zil
    Posts : 33
    Win 7 Pro x64
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       #17

    Ok I somehow managed to install build 14366. Wow. Now if I could just disable that lock screen, it'd be a long way.. WinAero Tweaker doesn't work.

    They say that from build 14271 disabling the lock screen only works on Enterprise, Education and whatever version.. great. Any workarounds or do I need to upgrade from Pro to Enterprise now? Seriously, Microsoft..
    Last edited by zil; 15 Jul 2016 at 06:14.
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  8. Posts : 471
    Windows 10 Pro
       #18

    Opting out of the Insider program is done in the advanced update options, on my screenshot it would probably be somewhere below the text "Get Insider Preview builds". Mine is greyed out because I've applied some group policies (to stop automatic updates). It's where you can chose between the different "rings" (slow, fast...). There also has to be an option to opt out.
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  9. Posts : 460
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #19

    You're right altae, there is a "Stop Insider Preview builds" button.

    See this tutorial zil https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1...dows-10-a.html Option 2, it describes how to stop them.
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  10. Posts : 471
    Windows 10 Pro
       #20

    Really, jump off the preview wagon, stick to the regular build and wait until the upgrade is released. If MS really prevents disabling the lock screen there will almost certainly be a solution by one of the various tweaking genies out there. Maybe the developer of Winaero Tweak can adapt his program to work with the latest release. But for this to happen he must first get his hands on the final version.
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