Do you deliberately perform restarts to keep file system in order.

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  1. Posts : 1,871
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    Do you deliberately perform restarts to keep file system in order.


    Because W10 has a quick start facility (rather than the full shutdown/reboot of old), I've often wondered whether occasional deliberate restarts are beneficial to keeping the basic file structure in order.

    For example, if I wish to run a full disk clean I always do a restart first, then the clean followed by another restart.

    How about you ? Do you feel this is necessary, or is it something that is just not needed.
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    Mooly said:
    Because W10 has a quick start facility (rather than the full shutdown/reboot of old), I've often wondered whether occasional deliberate restarts are beneficial to keeping the basic file structure in order.

    For example, if I wish to run a full disk clean I always do a restart first, then the clean followed by another restart.

    How about you ? Do you feel this is necessary, or is it something that is just not needed.
    I find it beneficial only after updates (usually mandatory restart) or serious disk cleaning. Also found that after a restart, my favorite disk cleaner "UnCleaner" deletes more unnecessary file remnants.
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  3. Posts : 26
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    Just for information: by holding Shift button while clicking Shut-down does the conventional shut-down procedure without the /hybrid state. It's as like as 1st part of a restart, until the PC shuts down completely.
    I sometimes use that when I plan to do something "fresh" in the coming hours.
    Nevertheless, that is what should you use if you are using a multi-OS boot and want to switch to the other OS the next time.
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  4. Posts : 1,871
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    Interesting, thanks. I've always felt a restart was beneficial, and seeing Mike mention a more thorough clean-up after doing so helps confirm my suspicion.

    Also, I never knew that about the shutdown procedure (ctrl+shutdown)... thanks.
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  5. Posts : 15,037
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    I turn Windows Fast Startup off. I'm not trying to be a smart ass, it's just that I use an SSD so I see no need for fast startup. It can cause more issues than it solves, IMHO. Accessing your BIOS/boot menu can be a PITA with it on.
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  6. Posts : 1,366
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    Fast Startup is off for me as well, because I shut down my systems at night or when I leave work. I don't need them running, hibernating, etc. Off should be off.
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    Mooly said:
    Interesting, thanks. I've always felt a restart was beneficial, and seeing Mike mention a more thorough clean-up after doing so helps confirm my suspicion.

    Also, I never knew that about the shutdown procedure (ctrl+shutdown)... thanks.
    I also have Fast Startup turned off, for the same reasons and because with SSDs, my restart time is less than 40 seconds. (Based on a VB script, "Restart-Time" that tracks the time)
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  8. Posts : 1,871
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    Now I have it turned on and tbh its given zero problems in W10 although I'm wondering if some of the issues I experienced with Acronis in W8.1 could have been down to fast start. It was always 50:50 whether a restore operation running from within Windows would initially load OK or whether it would stall as Acronis rebooted to load. Hmmm...

    No problems in Ten though because I ditched Acronis.
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  9. Posts : 2,297
    Windows 10 Pro (64 bit)
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    I leave fast start up on. I do worry about unnecessary writes to the SSD wearing it out. But seeing as shutdown happens in a matter of seconds I do wonder if it is really writing much to the SSD at all.

    To be honest I cannot really notice the difference between fast startup and a normal restart. Neither method makes things any worse or better. Time to resume windows after BIOS screen is pretty much instantaneous whatever method used.
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  10. Posts : 15,037
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    It has its advantages in certain situations. The downside, if your running an SSD, is it constantly writes a hiberfil.sys to your drive. Which aside from the write cycles, could be a large file. If your SSD is on the small side that's space you might want back. You may not even notice any boot up speed increase either. If your using a spinner for your hard drive, it will speed things up for you though. I was hesitant in making my above post. I didn't want to start a it sucks, it rocks, debate.
    I put a shutdown shortcut on my taskbar and Start Screen. It does a C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 00, a true shutdown. When I'm done for the day I just click it. I never leave my PC's running unless I have to. File downloads etc.
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