Input Bar is Blank/Windows Icon + Space hotkey won't work

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  1. Posts : 1
    Windows 10
       #1

    Input Bar is Blank/Windows Icon + Space hotkey won't work


    Hello.

    I have two issues : the input indicator, on the right inferior corner of my screen, is blank and shows noting. It still appears, but merely shows nothing at all.

    Also, when I press Windows icon + space, it won't change the inputs on my PC. I have English (United States) and Japanese installed at my PC right now.

    Also, I use Microsoft IME and Google IME inputs in the japanese language.

    Inlike in Windows 8.1, Windows 10 do not have this functionality working and it stops me from learning other languages.

    Can anyone help me with this?
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  2. Posts : 42,737
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Hello, These work fine for me, so it's not that Win 10 is not capable of providing these features. Something is broken, or possibly conflicting with this function.

    Ideally someone here will know a precise solution. You will have found references on the internet to the language bar being missing or hidden. But yours is blank.

    I will assume you have neither relevant system restore points nor disk images, the latter especially being really important to use, especially with Win 10 which sometimes seems a little fragile. Macrium Reflect (free) is strongly recommended here- there are other similar programs allowing you to restore your PC to a previously working state without technical support.

    1st: User profile corruption
    Please create a new user account just for test purposes. (You can delete it later).
    If you see the same symptoms, you probably do not have user profile corruption.
    If you do, it's sthg else.

    2nd: possible conflicts.
    Can you confirm that you see the same symptoms after a clean boot, and after disabling all shell extensions (but hide Microsoft's!) using Shellexview (free).

    3rd: Repairing Windows.
    You can try first, from an admin level command prompt,
    sfc /scannow
    This will take a while.

    This will replace any damaged Windows files from a backup copy.
    Please post the summary result (ignore a report of opencl.dll if it occurs)

    An in-place upgrade repair install will (amongst other things) remove installed language packs (don't know about IME's). It uses the process of Windows install but keeps all programs and most settings.

    You can try this and see if it helps.

    I strongly recommend you use disk imaging first so you can easily restore your present configuration just in case.

    Here are my notes and a link to the tutorial.
    An In-place upgrade repair install will fix many things, but not those where the settings are not changed by the procedure.

    For this you need an installation medium with the same base build as you have installed.
    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade - Windows 10 Forums
    This will refresh Windows, after the manner of a Windows installation.
    - all/most associations will be unchanged
    - all your programs will be left installed
    - you will lose any custom fonts
    - you will lose any customised system icons
    - you may need to re-establish your Wi-Fi connection
    - you will need to redo Windows updates subsequent to the build you have used for the repair install
    - Windows.old will be created
    - system restore will be turned off- you should turn it on again and I recommend you manually schedule a daily restore point.
    - you will need to redo any language downloads including the display language if you changed that)

    This is one of the better features of Win10: as each major build comes out, that's your updated reference build, and as updates are mostly cumulative, there will be few to do.

    Recommendation:
    Before you perform this major repair procedure, do create a disk image.

    Please consider using disk imaging regularly. It's a brilliant way to
    - preserve your system (and your sanity)
    - back up your data
    - restore your system to a previously working state in a relatively short time

    Recommended: Macrium Reflect or Aomei Backupper (free) + their boot disk/device + large enough external storage medium.
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  3. Posts : 5
    Windows 10
       #3

    I'm having the same problem. Used your methods Dalchina and the language bar did appear when I did safe mode start, however when I created a new account.

    I fixed it previously by doing an recovery, however this happened again after doing an anti-virus scan with Avira! Can the language bar be fixed without a recovery again?...
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  4. Posts : 42,737
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #4

    Hmm... yet another AV clash with Win 10? That's Bitdefender (being fixed), Total 360 and now Avira.. all different issues.
    Avast seems ok...

    Avira has had a reputation for being a little zealous sometimes.

    Three possibilities:
    1. see if there's anything in Avira's quarantine (that's probably optimistic)
    2. using a system restore point might help.. if you have any useful ones
    3. do you have any form of disk image or system image?

    The trouble with doing an in-place repair is it means having to struggle to get the language changed again afterwards, which I find difficult.
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  5. Posts : 5
    Windows 10
       #5

    dalchina said:
    Hmm... yet another AV clash with Win 10? That's Bitdefender (being fixed), Total 360 and now Avira.. all different issues.
    Avast seems ok...

    Avira has had a reputation for being a little zealous sometimes.

    Three possibilities:
    1. see if there's anything in Avira's quarantine (that's probably optimistic)
    2. using a system restore point might help.. if you have any useful ones
    3. do you have any form of disk image or system image?

    The trouble with doing an in-place repair is it means having to struggle to get the language changed again afterwards, which I find difficult.
    I've restored everything from Avira's quarantine and restarted, didn't help...

    Did system restore once before and it worked. However, when Avira runs a scan and I restart my computer, the problem is back...

    Really not keen on doing a system reset right now. Any other possible options? The language bar was working when I started my laptop in Safe Mode, so hardware shouldn't be the problem?
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  6. Posts : 42,737
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #6

    Ok, so sthg may be conflicting with it that you've installed.

    You may like to set a restore point before proceeding to easily get back to your current state.

    Try
    Clean Boot - Perform in Windows 10 to Troubleshoot Software Conflicts - Windows 10 Forums

    If the problem is still present after a clean boot, then download and run (or install and run) shellexview (free).
    Hide all MS extensions, disable the rest. (No need to log off etc).
    Note under options there's a 32 bit option which reveals more if running x64 '10.

    If your language bar is back, progressively enable to identify the culprit.
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  7. Posts : 5
    Windows 10
       #7

    I tried both Clean Boot and disabled the shells but language bar did not return... Only thing to make it appear seem to be Safe Mode at the moment.

    This means that the problem has to be within one of the Microsoft shells? (or service)
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  8. Posts : 42,737
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #8

    That would suggest MS conflicting with itself... I'd suspect that despite disabling all those shell extensions and startups you still have sthg conflicting.

    What happens if you create a new user and try that?
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  9. Posts : 5
    Windows 10
       #9

    I tried to create a new user yesterday same problem. Got tired of it now and just did a recovery.

    Deleted Avira as well and opted for BitDefender, everything is working fine up to now... Pretty sure that the cause of this was Avira wrongly identifying some file as virus and some how it broke the language bar :S
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  10. Posts : 42,737
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #10

    Sometimes it's necessary.

    Please consider using disk imaging routinely (comments above) - means you can restore your PC quickly to a previously working state without having to re-install windows and programs and reconfigure settings etc, saving time, as well as providing a backup.

    You never know when sthg will fail with Win 10. That said, mine's stable. Win 10 is more sensitive to people poking around though!
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